Ron DeSantis bashes modeling used by Florida’s emergency management agency
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Ron DeSantis
The models have been inaccurate and don't provide nuance, he says.

When asked about the state’s disaster response agency’s use of coronavirus modeling, Gov. Ron DeSantis again Monday launched into an attack on those models and media outlets that report on them.

The Governor, speaking at a Lee County hospital, was asked about one of several models used by the Division of Emergency Management (DEM) and Director Jared Moskowitz.

“Has that been accurate so far?” he interrupted. “Have any of the models been accurate so far?”

After three minutes of bashing the models, he circled back to the gist of the original question.

“The models have not been accurate, and the Division of Emergency Management may do it, but I can tell you, I’ve talked with Jared multiple times about we need to go based on facts and based off evidence and not go based off conjecture.”

DEM uses a series of models to anticipate how many supplies the state should have to preempt the pandemic’s impact, similar to how it uses an assortment of models to predict hurricane paths. The division’s spokesman, Jason Mahone, emphasized that the state uses multiple models to plan for its contingencies in a statement to Florida Politics.

“The state uses all available data to respond to COVID-19,” Mahone said. “This includes the number of cases in Florida, the Emergency Department chief complaint and admission data included in daily reports, as well as reports coming in from other states.”

When asked what models the state is looking at, the Governor said he looks at the facts and the data the state pulls in itself. The state must look at hospitalization rates and new infection positivity rates rather than models he has called false.

“I think what I’ve found on these models is that they have assumptions that are totally unreasonable, but then also they have no appreciation for how individual states are dealing with this,” he said.

The model named in the provocative question comes from the Institute for Health and Metrics Evaluation (IHME), made in association with the University of Washington and highlighted by members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force. As of Sunday, the model shows 5,440 people could die in Florida by early August and the estimated peak need for hospital beds at just under 2,000.

But the model doesn’t provide the policy nuances DeSantis said states should consider when planning, including input from hospitals and doctors. It includes that the stay-at-home order was lifted, but not that it remains in place for Miami-Dade and Broward counties, and Palm Beach County before Monday.

“How do you model Florida moving to Phase One with 64 counties and then not with, say, Miami-Dade,” he said. “I have not seen any appreciation for any of that.”

The Governor also highlighted his early actions on nursing homes, banning visits to nursing homes and keeping COVID-19 patients in hospitals. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo recently followed suit after 5,300 New Yorkers living in nursing homes have died, according to the Associated Press.

“How do you model Florida denying access to nursing homes and saying you can’t send sick patients back to a nursing home versus other states that didn’t do that and actually required sick patients to go back?” DeSantis asked.

And the Governor railed against the outlets, not by name this time, that reported a prediction that 464,000 people would be hospitalized in Florida by April 24. With only 70,000 license hospital beds statewide, such an influx would require the state to build field hospitals but in an impossible quantity.

“You’re really projecting massive, massive fatalities — 100,000, 200,000 if you really look at that,” he said. “And that was something that was being printed in newspapers.”

In reality, 4,817 Floridians had been hospitalized by that date.

“There would be some models,” DeSantis said, “that would literally come out and they would say, ‘The next day, Florida’s going to have 4,500 people hospitalized.’ And then I would look and see how many people are hospitalized. Oh, well 1,600. I was like, alright, are we going to have 2,900 people all of a sudden?”

Hitting outlets for reporting projections made by health experts that never materialized has become a staple of the Governor’s near-daily press conferences. Defending Jacksonville from national attacks for opening its beaches last month has also been a favorite, not visited in his Lee County talk Monday.

The latest iteration of IHME’s model now predicts the peak of coronavirus deaths in the state is yet to come. In its average scenario, 60 Floridians could die per day by the second week of June, up from the low 50s this week.

The model also comes with a confidence interval. Necessary hospital bed use and deaths may already be on their way down or bed need could still jump to 4,800 and deaths to 152 per day by mid-June.

Previously, the model predicted COVID-19 cases would mostly peter out by that time. But a rework of the model’s methodology and the state entering Phase One last week contributed to a significant bump in the state’s expected death toll.

As of Monday, 40,982 people have tested positive for the disease in Florida. Including non-residents, 7,458 people have been hospitalized in the state and 1,805 have died.

Renzo Downey

Renzo Downey covers state government for Florida Politics. After graduating from Northwestern University in 2019, Renzo began his reporting career in the Lone Star State, covering state government for the Austin American-Statesman. Shoot Renzo an email at renzo@floridapolitics.com and follow him on Twitter @RenzoDowney.


8 comments

  • Amy Roberts

    May 11, 2020 at 6:28 pm

    What model is Governor DeSantis using when he blocked the Florida Medical Examiners Data of Covid-19 deaths from the public.

  • Bill Newton

    May 11, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    The Gov was referencing two studies by health schools at Harvard, where the Gov went to law school, that gave those numbers IF there were no preventive actions like social distancing, etc. For some reason, the Gov doesn’t slam the Harvard studies, but the newspaper that printed them. Wouldn’t most people think Harvard studies would be good info?

  • BlueHeron

    May 11, 2020 at 10:53 pm

    “The models have not been accurate, and the Division of Emergency Management may do it, but I can tell you, I’ve talked with Jared multiple times about we need to go based on facts and based off evidence and not go based off conjecture.”

    Jared. Is this THE Jared? The one and only Jared? The special advisor to POTUS and the Son he never had? The one who’s in charge of achieving peace in the middle east? The one who is heading his own covid task force, pretty much on the down low? The one who, I believe, has recently been tasked with vaccine creation and possible treatments, etc…? That Jared? The one who is frighteningly lacking anything resembling science based training, education, experience and world class expertise? The Jared who is ill-equipped in dealing with literally everything, much less managing a Pandemic?

    Not surprised this is who is advising DeSantis and the game plan for us is reflective in the petulant, defensive attitude from our Gov and his grossly incompetent crisis management. Clearly, neither of them understands anything about modelling forecasts and they don’t care to learn. Just an inconvenience.

    So, that’s it in a nutshell. Jared is “consulting” him on what data should and should not be considered and decisions regarding our physical and economic health are the fruits of their labor. Modelling, schmodelling. Who cares. Just an inconvenience.

    Lord, help us all.

    • Facepalm

      May 12, 2020 at 8:18 am

      He’s talking about Jared Moscowitz, the Director of the Division of Emergency Management. A Democrat, by the way. I would have thought an informed, reasonable voter like yourself would know that and not have embarrassed yourself with that five-paragraph Joycian word vomit.

      • BlueHeron

        May 12, 2020 at 10:10 pm

        Facepalm,

        Thanks for the clarification. Seriously.

        Quite clearly, the name Jared is a trigger for me and does not bring to mind jewelry. I promised myself I would be better and to think before I speak, but clearly I went over the edge.
        Sorry about the verbal diarrhea. Too much isolation ice cream.

      • DisplacedCTYankee

        May 13, 2020 at 7:25 am

        “Joycean word vomit.” YEA, two thumbs up, Facepalm! (From an English major who never made it through “Ulysses.”)

  • Charlotte Greenbarg

    May 12, 2020 at 7:29 am

    Lord help us all from the frothing at the mouth far left liars who use disease as a political weapon. Facts don’t matter to them. The erroneous predictions of hundreds of thousands of deaths prove the Governor’s point

  • Corbin Supak

    May 12, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    Here’s the model that’s been most accurate so far and does take into account the actions of each state’s government :
    https://covid19-projections.com/

    It’s median outcome by Aug 4th is 5500 deaths in Florida, with a range from 2300 to 11900 possible.

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