“Dr. Sleep” is the name of a 2013 Stephen King novel and follow up to the 1980s flick, The Shining. It could also be the title of the real-life fight over the delivery of anesthesia in Florida and who is authorized to do what.
Two Republicans are sponsoring legislation this year that strikes a requirement for certified registered nurse anesthetists (CRNAs) to put patients under without having to enter into written protocol agreements with physicians.
Cape Coral Republican Rep. Mike Giallombardo says striking the paperwork requirement will help improve access to health care and will keep highly trained nurses working in the state. But opponents say HB 257 is “scope creep” and will work to kill it.
“Scope of practice” is a term used to describe the duties and activities that health care professionals are permitted to perform.
There have been many “scope of practice” battles in the halls of the Florida Capitol. Pharmacists and physicians have tussled over flu shots, and dental hygienists and dentists have wrestled over the delivery of oral health care.
Former Senate President Don Gaetz coined the term “Eyeball Wars” and promised to once and for all settle the scope of practice battle between optometrists and ophthalmologists.
This year, there will be a battle over the administration of anesthesia, which is a lucrative business. The Senate counterpart to HB 257 has not been filed, but Sen. Blaise Ingoglia will sponsor the bill.
In Florida, there are three different anesthesia providers: anesthesiologists, CRNAs and anesthesiologist assistants (AAs), all of which have different roles and educational and training backgrounds.
CRNAs in Florida are required to practice under a supervising physician’s protocol. They can, under the on-site medical direction of a licensed physician or dentist, provide anesthesia to patients before, during and after surgery. CRNAs made a median salary of $195,610 in 2021, according to U.S. News & World Report.
AAs, meanwhile, work under the direct supervision of anesthesiologists in the same surgical or obstetric suites as the procedure being performed. According to Salary.com, the average anesthesiologist assistant salary in Florida is $164,962 as of Sept. 25, 2023.
Giallombardo says his legislation isn’t a “scope of practice” bill. CRNAs may — within the limitations set by the established protocol of the facility in which they are working — conduct pre-anesthesia evaluations, order and administer the anesthetic, monitor and interpret the patient’s vital signs, and manage the patient during surgery and in recovery.
His bill doesn’t change that. It deletes the requirement that the CRNAs have written protocols with supervising physicians.
“It’s not expanding scope, it is just simply removing that paper protocol, to make it easier, to make it more affordable, to make it more efficient, ” Giallombardo told Florida Politics.
Giallombardo and other proponents — including Director of the University of South Florida Nurse Anesthesiology Program, Michelle Canalea — also say the bill is necessary to help solidify the state’s workforce and to increase access to health care.
The Florida Hospital Association and the Safety Net Hospital Alliance of Florida released reports showing a pending nursing shortage and a physician shortage in the state.
Canale says many of the CRNA graduates trained at the College of Nursing are leaving the state. Of the 253 CRNAs who graduated between 2018 and 2023, 27% are working outside of Florida, many in states where autonomous practice is allowed.
Jacksonville health care lawyer and lobbyist Chris Nuland says he understands why the bill proponents are steering clear of the “scope of practice” description. “Legislators don’t like those words, because they know that they’re not going to get a consensus on the bill and it will be controversial. You will have the parties on either side coming at you. And there’s no way to win,” Nuland said.
But Nuland, who represents a number of physician specialty organizations before the Legislature and executive branches, does consider Giallombardo’s legislation a scope creep.
“They are, indeed, changing what a CRNA can do by removing the supervision and protocol with an anesthesiologist,” Nuland said. “Allowing somebody to perform a service independently is, in fact, allowing them to perform a new service.”
Meanwhile, AAs also will be looking to alter their governing statutes. Florida Academy of Anesthesiologist Assistants past resident Jeff Carroll told Florida Politics that AAs are also looking to update their governing statutes to better reflect today’s health care environment. Similar to Giallombardo, Carroll stressed that the yet-to-be-filed legislation is not a scope of practice expansion for AAs.
Nuland predicted the CRNAs would not support the AAs’ efforts.
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Greg
October 25, 2023 at 6:34 am
Could you please correctly identify Certified Anesthesiologist Assistants as such (CAA)? They are Certified just like a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, nobody call them RNAs. Thank you.
rick whitaker
October 25, 2023 at 6:57 am
sounds like the desantis regime and it’s healthcare arm is trying to cheapen the system at the expense of quality healthcare. am i wrong?
Lisa Mueller
October 26, 2023 at 8:20 am
I have practiced in FL for 3 years now. I work at facilities where there is no physician anesthesiologist at all. They are CRNA only practices. No issues, no additional malpractice claims. But technically, the surgeon is “supervising” me even though they have no training in anesthesia! Stupid! No one wants a plumber supervising an electrician.
rick whitaker
October 28, 2023 at 1:11 pm
socialized medicine is the answer. nobody wants a nurse when they need a doctor
Leopoldo Rodriguez MD FASA FAAP SAMBA-F
October 31, 2023 at 11:49 am
Lisa,
If you think a surgeon is a plumber?
Let’s be clear, If you are referring in construction terms, the surgeon would be an engineer that does supervise the “non-physician” person, like the electrician, the plumber.
The problem you have is that you know how to push propofol, but aside from basic skills like intubation (which a Respiratory Therapist can also do), you don’t have the training to deal with the complications if they arise. Like a chest tube for example.
Remember physicians are running the ICU, while the RNs are taking orders from those physicians, this includes Anesthesiologists. And that’s the experience CRNAs have in the ICU.
I did 11 months of Critical Anesthesia in my Anesthesia residency, was senior resident in Trauma ICU, Neuro ICU, SICU…. If you think your training is equal, you are lying to yourself and politicians.
how many chest tubes have you inserted?
Luckily, I practice in an MD only practice, do all my cases, etc.
C. A. f.
October 31, 2023 at 2:09 pm
I have friends who practice anesthesia in Germany. There, like most first world countries, only physicians practice anesthesia. In the U.S., the patient saves no money by getting a lesser trained nurse doing their anesthesia.
The dumbing down of American healthcare continues. “Idiocracy” was prescient.
Anthony
November 1, 2023 at 7:19 pm
Can the bill Rep Giamollambardo author please explain how removing a “paper requirement for anesthesia protocols” will keep CRNAs in the state? First and foremost, almost all medical records and orders are electronic in most health care systems. There really is not paper. “Orders” are written electronically and the actual protocol is usually discussed verbally between the Anesthesiologist & CRNA or Surgeon & CRNA. This bill is a thinly veiled attempt to create independent scope of practice for CRNAs in Florida. Do NOT be deceived into thinking anything otherwise. This is a CRNA attempt to continue to push for independent practice status. Ask yourself who you would want to take care of you or your family member at 11pm when no one else is around? – a CRNA or a Physician.
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