‘Personhood’ bill hits resistance amid IVF, abortion concerns
After two years of failed attempts by other Senators, Erin Grall successfully carried a bill clearing payment to Robert DuBoise through the chamber. Image via Colin Hackley for Florida Politics.

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'Although I have worked diligently to respond to questions and concerns, I understand there is still work that needs to be done.'

Legislation derided by Democrats and critics over concerns it would criminalize legal abortions and lead to restrictions on in vitro fertilization failed to advance at its final committee stop, derailing the bill’s progress with two weeks left in the Regular Session.

The bill was scheduled for a vote in the Senate Rules Committee but was postponed. The Committee isn’t scheduled to meet again this Session.

“I have requested that (SB 476) be temporarily postponed at this time,” said bill sponsor Sen. Erin Grall, a Vero Beach Republican, in a released statement.

“It is my understanding this is the first time this issue has been considered by the Florida Legislature. Although I have worked diligently to respond to questions and concerns, I understand there is still work that needs to be done. It is important we get the policy right with an issue of this significance.”

The House version of the bill (HB 651) is ready for a vote on the floor in that chamber, but the Senate would have to schedule a special committee hearing to bring it to the floor.

Democrats and abortion rights advocates had long feared the bill would put doctors who perform abortions at risk of being sued. They also feared an amendment to the bill would grant “personhood” status to fetuses in civil liability cases, putting state law on a path for courts to interpret unborn children as full persons, thus banning abortions.

The concerns over the personhood provision became more acute when the Alabama Supreme Court ruled last week that embryos were people under that state’s constitution. The ruling led clinics to stop the IVF process, which included the storage of frozen embryos. The move by the IVF clinics could cost parents struggling to conceive thousands of dollars, in addition to the chance to have a child.

Senate Democratic Leader Lauren Book said before the meeting she still had serious concerns about the personhood aspect of the bill, despite amendments from Grall attempting to protect women and doctors who perform legal abortions from being sued.

“This is a backdoor attempt at personhood,” Book told reporters ahead of the meeting. “Any time you start talking about personhood, IVF is on the table.”

Gray Rohrer


17 comments

  • UnbornTaxIncentives

    February 26, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    I was ready to claim 50 embryos on my tax return this year. Maybe next year they will pass this law for us.
    Was going to be a huge windfall.
    My pregnant cousin has twins in her belly and she is hoping to get the food stamps approved for both of these children even though they aren’t due until next year, they are still children.
    Also planning on sueing the baby daddy for unpaid child support since the day of conception.

    • Christian Nationalist florida

      February 26, 2024 at 8:50 pm

      Filthy cultists and their imaginary creator

  • Ironic

    February 26, 2024 at 5:16 pm

    Ironic this bill would be put forth by the GOP when by granting personhood at conception they just declared that any illegal immigrant they would otherwise seek to deport may now not be deported because they are vessels for a US citizen as declared at conception, according to the new “personhood” laws being pushed in more than 15 states, many of which would also guarantee child support, tax credits, welfare, legal standing for lawsuits, etc., dating to the time of conception. Gee whiz, this doesn’t really sound like the GOP. Maybe they’re painting themselves into a corner?

    • Christian Nationalist florida

      February 26, 2024 at 8:50 pm

      Bwhahahahahahaha

    • Dont Say FLA

      February 27, 2024 at 7:39 am

      OMGs, best argument yet.

      …and I had thought my carpool lane with a tray of ice cubes was a good one

      • Nope

        February 27, 2024 at 3:31 pm

        Your jokes make coffee come out of my nose. 🙂

        • Dont Say FLA

          February 29, 2024 at 11:48 am

          Thanks, but you really shouldn’t put coffee in your nose.

  • law review lists unintended consequences and questions

    February 26, 2024 at 5:38 pm

    https://
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/
    outlook/if-a-fetus-is-a-person-it-should-get-child-support-due-process-and-citizenship/
    2019/05/17/7280ae30-78ac-11e9-b3f5-5673edf2d127_story.html

    This article was written by a law professor at Washington and Lee 5 years ago. It is worth the read because it brings up a lot of the legal unintended consequences and questions over this issue. There are a lot, some of them absurd but also very real. Even simple things like a pregnant woman not being allowed to drive a car because it’s illegal for 2 people to sit in the driver’s seat. Issues with social security. 2 tiered level of citizenship. Federal consitutional articles which now conflict over states rights vs. inalienable rights. Etc. These issues will not go away since more and more states are moving this direction.

    • G0P Strategery Session

      February 27, 2024 at 7:50 am

      There could be an exceptional clause in personhood that preserves women’s right to drive. You know, just for the moment, but shhhhhh on that. We can say we are FOR women’s rights and this is proof.

      The state house should pass the bill. The Senate should then amend, making sure the embryos and fetuses don’t allow the pregnant women to use the carpool lane until the sex of the embryo is determined and it’s male.

      Senate passes Personhood with the “carpool lane only when embryo has been determined to be a male” amendment late on a Friday. Send it back to the state house on Friday at 4:50pm.

      House then “works late to pass this very important legislation,” passing the bill at 11:30 PM (meaning they recessed at 10:02AM , went golfing, had some drinks, went to lunch, had a drink went to the pool, had some drinks, went out to dinner, having a drink, went to the sports bar to have some drinks, and then went back to work about 9:30PM).

      News of the Senate amendment is lost by Monday Folks only ever hear that personhood was passed and women are still allowed to drive because G0P works to keep women safe.

      • G0P Strategery Session

        February 27, 2024 at 7:53 am

        Since our strategery session has been sunshined to the public, I want to make one thing clear. The entirety of 10:03 AM to 9:29PM is in the company of, and funded by, our lobbyist friends. NOT our wives. ANYONE but our wives or someone who might make us pay for our own golf, lunch, dinner, or drinks.

        We all know the drill, of course, but want to make sure the public in informed of the implied portions of the agenda.

        • Legislation for dummies

          February 27, 2024 at 3:50 pm

          You must have worked on the hill lolllll. Btw, what sunshine laws? This is the precipitation state. “Overcast and misplaced and delayed” laws have replaced sunshine law.

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    February 26, 2024 at 6:27 pm

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  • Christian Nationalist florida

    February 26, 2024 at 8:49 pm

    So gross

  • Dr. Franklin Waters

    February 27, 2024 at 10:27 am

    Just so you know, they’re coming after birth control next.

    The average Republican is a miserable human being, and they want everybody to be just as miserable & joyless as them.

    • Yup

      February 27, 2024 at 3:44 pm

      Ohio outlawed IUD. You are correct. Because GqP doesn’t want to stop or reduce pregnancies with common sense policies or heaven forbid actually address both males and females on this issue. They want a population increase under their control. People with higher education and more wealth have fewer children. GqP want a return to Victorian times with mass inequality, no child protections, huge differences in public health according to wealth status, concentrated property ownership, and a mass working population working nearly for free and dying young and having more babies than they can feed. Wouldn’t be surprised to see someone propose bringing back debtors prisons. But it starts with birth control in every form. Statistically the straight line to poverty is a working single mother, despite Herculean efforts to the contrary. This is what the G0P ultimately wants. A pliable underclass. What’s insane is how many people vote against their own interests in the false name of “freedumb”. Does anyone realize all these policies just lead to more inequality, unrest, and burden on the state? Oh yeah. These guys don’t believe in small government anymore. They believe in total control.

    • Dont Say FLA

      February 29, 2024 at 11:50 am

      “They want everybody to be just as miserable & joyless as them” is why they go after Swifties aka TS-13.

      “They” should know the Quezon City sect of worldwide gang TS-13 is currently standing down and standing by.

  • M. Zygote

    February 29, 2024 at 11:55 am

    Why am I not a person but just about 24 hours later I am a person?

    What’s the f_____ difference?

    Please somebody explain.

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