Ryan Nicol
Two organizations created in the aftermath of February’s shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School have joined together to ban assault weapons in the state of Florida.
Americans for Gun Safety Now (AFGSN) and Ban Assault Weapons Now (BAWN) say they have combined forces to create a bipartisan coalition to ban those weapons, with the goal being the passage of an amendment in 2020.
BAWN had already announced the push for an amendment earlier this year. Now, AFGSN says it will join those efforts by “spending its resources educating Florida residents and opinion leaders on this critical issue,” according to a release obtained by Florida Politics.
“Our collaboration with BAWN is a natural progression for AFGSN,” said Al Hoffman, founder of AFGSN.
“We are still dedicated to passing the six common-sense gun reform principles our organization was founded on, but by working alongside BAWN, we have the opportunity to make our own state safer first. This is a critical step to protecting future generations of Floridians.”
BAWN is a political committee primarily comprised of several family members of mass shooting victims at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and Pulse nightclub.
The group is still working on potential language for that 2020 amendment to define exactly what constitutes an “assault weapon.” As of yet, that definition remains unclear.
That could be a sticking point for voters deciding the fate of any potential amendment. “There’s no technical definition of an ‘assault weapon,'” notes The Washington Post in this explainer. While some associate the term with fully automatic weapons, those have been banned from public purchase since 1986, with some limited exceptions.
Others use the term to describe semi-automatic rifles with certain additional features which allow them to mimic military weapons.
The 1994 federal assault weapons ban made distinctions between semi-automatic weapons that were cleared for purchase and those that were banned under the law. But that led to some confusion and created loopholes. The Washington Post again notes: “Any semi-automatic rifle with a pistol grip and a bayonet mount was an ‘assault weapon.’ But a semi-automatic rifle with just a pistol grip might be OK. It was complicated.”
Overly broad language could reel in a larger-than-intended number of gun models into the ban, provoking gun enthusiasts’ ire.
But BAWN Chairman Gail Schwartz says the partnership with AFGSN will help the organization achieve its goal of making the assault weapons ban a reality. For a 2020 amendment to be successful, it would need to earn 60 percent of the vote from the public.
“The BAWN and AFGSN partnership is a powerful step toward improving safety in our schools and our communities,” said Schwartz, who lost her nephew, Alex Schachter, in the Parkland shooting.
“Our goal is to take military-style firearms off the shelves, thus saving the lives of innocent people.”
The groups say they intend to appeal to lawmakers of both parties to pass future legislation, where necessary. Gun control advocates did achieve a victory following the Parkland massacre with the passage of a bipartisan law which raised the minimum age to purchase a firearm to 21, among other restrictions.
135 comments
gdogs
September 10, 2018 at 2:52 pm
They can’t define what an “assault weapon” is, but they want to ban them regardless. That pretty much sums up most gun grabbers… idiots with no understanding of what they are fighting for or against, and that are utterly clueless in what can actually be accomplished by passing laws that only affect law abiding citizens.
Howard Breidenbach
September 10, 2018 at 4:50 pm
Pretty busy minding other people’s business aren’t they. It’s the same as killing the cat because the dog bit me
Constitutionalist
September 10, 2018 at 5:12 pm
Agreed! The FBI keeps track of all murders and how the murder was committed. The FBI does not keep track of people murdered with so-called “assault “. weapons” that’s because there is no such thing ! Any definition of assault weapon the anti-bill of rights people come up with is a complete fiction. “Assault”is a type of behavior it is not an object.
Eric Nix
September 10, 2018 at 6:55 pm
This is true but We are talking about some very stupid people.
Steve Hamilton
September 10, 2018 at 6:58 pm
Assault in this case is an adjective. It’s also a verb that applies to whatowners have been doing with these weapons of war in domestic peace time.
John Christee
September 10, 2018 at 9:37 pm
If you believe that a weapon of war is a semi automatic rifle, then you have never been in a war….Go into a firefight with a semi automatic rifle and you will likely end up dead…..Kinda like your brain……
Jon
September 10, 2018 at 11:05 pm
Steve…
An AR15 is not a weapon of war and AR doesn’t stand for assault rifle (it actually stands for armalite). The AR15 LOOKS LIKE a military rifle because the military redesigned the AR15 to make the M16. They are not even close to the same weapon.
Rev. Ronald Baker
September 10, 2018 at 11:48 pm
If they can do that, than I’ll become illegally gun owner
Steve
September 12, 2018 at 12:24 am
“They are not even close to the same weapon.”
Umm… well, not entirely correct… the only difference that counts is the fire control group, selector, and the additional space cut from the lower to accommodate such…
Some will say the bolt control group too, but most AR’s have M16 style bcg’s these days…
D-Dub
September 10, 2018 at 11:08 pm
Define a weapon of war (media hype and coined term) please. I’ve been in a couple, and the only semi automatic firearm I used, that didn’t have a full automatic selector switch, was a pistol. If it can be fired fully automatic (one pull of the trigger and it will continue to fire until the magazine is expended of all the cartridges) is by law considered a machine gun, and is already banned, against the law for everyday citizens. If you are referring to an AR style rifle, it is still a semi automatic rifle, period, end of description. Just because it looks like a Military weapon doesn’t mean it is one. It has a “scary” look to it, with those “evil” features, that doesn’t affect the semi automatic firing capability. Tired of hearing all these “gun experts” using terminology they read/heard in the or on the internet. In war, anything goes to kill the enemy, if I ran outta bullets, my entrenching tool (a small foldable shovel) becomes my weapon, or my bayonet (like a smaller version of a Bowie Knife) attached at the end of my rifle. In war anything you can use to kill the enemy is basically a weapon of war, right? But in peace time, they are knives, shovels, big rocks etc. do yourself and everyone else, FULLY educate yourself on the correct terminology and apply it appropriately, please. I’m tired of listening or reading about this dribble.
David M Lewis
September 10, 2018 at 11:53 pm
This are not weapons of war idiot.
William Platts
September 11, 2018 at 4:58 am
They aren’t weapons of war. No assault weapon is being used by the army of any country on the planet.
.308CPA
September 11, 2018 at 6:29 am
Unless you are buying an automatic weapon, which are near impossible to obtain legally without a lot of money and proper license, guns that can be purchased are 1 bullet per trigger pull. No different than a bolt action. Weapons of war have select fire, which normal citizens cannot buy unless you have both criteria I stated above.
Bucket
September 11, 2018 at 7:48 am
Weapons of war are automatic dumb ass
G Eigle
September 11, 2018 at 9:46 am
First, it is the right of the people to have weapons equivalent to the military in order to over throw a tyrannical government or regime. That is the key part to “raise a militia”.
Second, we are not in peace time. Since 2001 Congress declared war on terrorism in conjunction with the President. As well the US government declared a war on drugs. Both of which have not been nullified.
Included in the 2001 Patriot Act ” any military members under orders shall not be detained under any circumstances” this includes reserve and inactive reserve.
Do you really want our government and military to really exercise the martial laws that are currently in effect?
Greg
September 11, 2018 at 11:39 am
I own several of these type of rifles and haven’t assualted anyone with them…
Joshua
September 11, 2018 at 12:01 pm
I own an ar15. I have never assaulted anyone. It is statement like yours that scare people who know nothing about firearms. Someone could just as easily someone else with a hammer. Hell in most cases it would be easier to use a hammer then a rifle.
Jeff
September 11, 2018 at 10:07 pm
Mr. Hamilton, you are unfit to be labeled “American”. Your cowardice and stupidity make you a dangerous person. I don’t own a gun but I carry “assault weapons” with me every where I go. My hands, my elbows, my knees, my feet, my shoulders, my teeth, my forehead, and the back of my skull. Come and try to take them you cowardly puke. I’ll be pleased to show you how they work.
Ken K
September 12, 2018 at 6:29 am
Assault weapon: A shoulder fired weapon in rifle caliber. Capable of select firing in semiauto, and automatic fire. Detachable magazine fed.
Dave M
September 10, 2018 at 7:41 pm
And a weapon is something used to inflict harm: i.e. knife, stick,vehicle, frying pan, rock, etc. Let’s ban all those…
Mike
September 11, 2018 at 1:21 pm
Many people don’t know the bill of rights doesn’t establish the rights enumerated therein. It protects them. Thus the right to bear arms isn’t created by the 2nd amendment its protected by it. No constitutional amendment will negate the pre USA right to self defense or defending another.
Reallystaunch
September 12, 2018 at 3:32 am
True! Sarah Brady, wife of James Brady who was shot while protecting Pres Reagan, invented the term out of hatred of gun ownership. Her first term Saturday Night Special didn’t work for her. So she came up with Assault Weapon! You can blame that witch for it
Douglas Brown
September 12, 2018 at 5:50 pm
Not a weapon of war. Just rifles. No more, no less.
Sheryl
September 17, 2018 at 3:50 pm
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
Stan
September 10, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Amen like anyone who doesn’t follow the law will follow any new ones.
Areyoukidnme
September 10, 2018 at 5:54 pm
In 2024 we should ban pencils for making mistakes, spoons for making people fat and iPhones for causing text related car accidents.
Steve Hamilton
September 10, 2018 at 6:53 pm
Defining an assault weapon is like defining pornography: you know it when you see it.
Gunsarecool
September 10, 2018 at 9:50 pm
Looks can be deceiving. you can make a bolt action rifle look like an “assault rifle”
Sheldon
September 11, 2018 at 5:11 am
You wouldn’t know an assault weapon if it bit your nose.
The SCOTUS said a weapon has to have a military (militia) use to be covered by the 2nd amendment.
Bucket
September 11, 2018 at 7:58 am
Wow you are stupid and I know it when I see it
Richard
September 10, 2018 at 8:22 pm
If you think about it they military style weapons, so my Glock, colt 45, Berreta 92fs which are all pistols would be banned du to the military style weapons comment due to all of them are or have been used by the military. What a joke these people are….
Ed
September 10, 2018 at 9:28 pm
They know exactly what they are doing. An assault weapon is anything you can use to threaten with. Their aim is to ban everything they can. They will never be happy, even when all of mankind is enslaved.
Bill
September 10, 2018 at 9:34 pm
This is why I’m glad the Republicans have the Supreme Court. They need to stop these idiots
Rob
September 10, 2018 at 9:42 pm
Agreed
Joe
September 10, 2018 at 10:27 pm
It’s laughable. If they ever hope to truly secure bipartisan support, they need to know gun fundamentals and stats on gun violence. I am for gun laws that make common sense and actually do some good. In the end, you will never defeat the human mind. If someone wants to kill or harm you, they will!
Carl A. Ferrigno
September 10, 2018 at 10:41 pm
Shoot them all.
Steve Bravy
September 10, 2018 at 10:47 pm
Just exactly do so-called law abiding citizens need a military grade weapon. possibly with large magazines as well? We are fighting for a more rational, less murderous policy, we know what we are fighting for, while you fight for selfish gun-mad hobbyists.
Rene macias
September 11, 2018 at 8:22 am
If you’re fighting for rational gun laws why don’t you enlighten us with what exactly it is you’re talking about that doesn’t entail turning millions of Americans who have committed no crimes into instant criminals? I’m waiting….
Joshua
September 11, 2018 at 12:08 pm
Steve, you make me laugh. An ar 15 is 100% not a “milatary grade” weapon. My beretta m9 pistol is a “milatary grade” weapon.
Donovan
September 11, 2018 at 1:14 pm
Steve, I hope you are aware that a semi automatic (civilian) rifle is NOT a military grade weapon also these rifles you’re going after are responsible for less that 1% of all gun crime/deaths 99% is done with handguns. So that refutes your “murderous society armed with military weapons” trope now let’s move on. I would suggest you contact any gun expert, veteran, or anyone with expertise in the field and ask them what makes a weapon military grade (it’s not cosmetic items like a grip or a stock I assure you) and lastly your “rational” policy is highly irrational because you lack the basic information on firearms that makes the gun owners and veterans ect all laugh at you because you’ve clearly not a single idea what you’re talking about. If you’d like to continue our little chat here you go.
[email protected]
Richard R
September 11, 2018 at 7:11 pm
Moron said what ? Exactly. Educate yourself or shut up. If you know nothing of the topic you speak of, why bother opening your yap ?
Justin
September 12, 2018 at 1:59 pm
This is just idiotic. I live in NY. The laws only changed the looks of guns. A regular wood style rifle can do as much damage and carnage as any “assault weapon” these laws dont do anything to address social issues. This is what happens when people unfamiliar with firearms attempt to make laws about them.
Jonas Ruttles
September 14, 2018 at 11:17 am
Define military grade. Looks like you are too stupid to know what they are. Always with the deception. You lying crapweasels are pathetic
KENNETH M KEGERREIS
September 17, 2018 at 4:11 pm
So called law abiding rational people trying to change law that has been on the books for hundreds of yrs. Since before our country fought and won their independence. You so called law abiding citizens wish to take away a law abiding citizens right to self defense.
How is more gun control a less murderous policy? What is the federal murder policy we have now?
Rev. Ronald Baker
September 10, 2018 at 11:46 pm
If they can do that, than I’ll become illegally gun owner
Charles H Luck
September 11, 2018 at 12:55 am
If all we do is criticize their ignorance, and we don’t actually push back, then they will succeed.
Darren
September 11, 2018 at 1:17 am
They know what they are fighting for… Socialism!! They think that the Government will/can take care of them. And they don’t have the smarts or the will to do it themselves!! Spineless little slugs with no moral character!!
Rick R
September 11, 2018 at 7:17 pm
Yes. Like Steve above !! Run off at the mouth with no knowledge of the AR-15.
Steve
September 11, 2018 at 1:31 am
B easier if they just say they want to ban everything in America but they don’t have enough paper to list all types of hammers or autos because of treehuggers
GR
September 11, 2018 at 7:47 am
Well, we will have to stop the insane communist totalitarian in disguise gun grabbers. What do they not understand about “Shall Not Infringe”. The Founding Fathers obviously very smart, knew firearm technology would keep advancing. That’s why the language in OUR CONSTITUTION ABOUT THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS VERY SIMPLE AND VERY CLEAR.This to stop the POLITICAL POWER HUNGARY DEMOCRATS fRom advancing their ILLEGAL reforms.There are already 21,000 gun laws on the books the system is finally just now starting to implement. No way are we Americans going to let the communists ban SEMI-AUTO rifles that have been in COMMON USE FOR 100 YEARS. We’ll see. This Country is as free as it is so let due to the Second Amendment. It’s going to stay that way.The leftists have pissed off millions more people about this issue and their economic ruining polices than the democrats could ever imagine.
Carl
September 11, 2018 at 2:37 pm
Yes I wish they would actually learn something about firearms before they preach about them.
The large majority of “mass” shootings are not even commited with “assault ” rifles.
I realize they want to do something, but why not work with mental illness or bad parenting which are the real cause of these shootings!
Mark D Crawford
September 12, 2018 at 2:50 pm
Amen! They know what an assault weapon is, but don’t know which bathroom to use.. Liberal snowflakes RME 🙄
Jon
September 10, 2018 at 4:36 pm
Good luck. Even if they get it passed, it would violate the supremacy clause of the Constitution. Thus making it an illegal amendment, aka null and void.
David R Dominguez
September 10, 2018 at 7:32 pm
Jon, you’re right, but as California has shown several times, they can ignore the supremacy clause. It has been done here, believe it or not, most recently by opposing federal immigration laws to become a sanctuary state. I’m a gun dealer here in California, so I’m use to such ridiculous laws. Good luck. Fight the fight #2A.
Brian Hall
September 10, 2018 at 10:36 pm
My condolences david!!! I live in indiana and i’m retired, i spend 6 days a week at my local gun shop.. It’s better than spending time in a bar… Not any cheaper tho.. We often talk about how utterly stupid it is how Ca treats gun owners and wonder how gun shop owners can make a living there.. I’d move out of Ca for sure.. okw about the Fl attack on gun owners, If they would just learn a little about guns and how they work that would help. However that is if they were truely interested in understanding why ar’s are so popular, when all they really want is to take all guns away from all of us legal and responsible gu ow ers but thats not what they want. So please keep up the fight for our 2nd Amendment rights!!!
William Platts
September 11, 2018 at 5:00 am
It took decades to get all those gun control laws in place and it’s likely going to take decades for courts to overturn them now that SCOTUS has spoken.
Tom
September 10, 2018 at 9:10 pm
Bingo!
Martin
September 10, 2018 at 4:39 pm
More people are killed by fists, knives and blunt objects that by so called assault weapons.
Richard Howard
September 10, 2018 at 6:55 pm
I never hear anything about the school shooting in Texas a week after the one in Florida. Where are all of the gun banners or all the national attention about that one. I guess you have to live in a gated community and have an agenda. Not it texas
Jake
September 10, 2018 at 11:36 pm
That’s because the shooter used a shotgun and a revolver… doesnt fit with their banning of the AR platform.
Carl
September 11, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Exactly if the events do not fit their agenda, which is to weaken our ability to stand against them, then they get no attention.
As soon as a resource officer stops things the press looses interest!
End gun free zones!
Arm teachers or at least a few school officers and school shootings go away!
Danny Flynn
September 10, 2018 at 9:44 pm
Hey idiot, when was the last time you heard of an attack on school children with a frying pan
William Platts
September 11, 2018 at 5:39 pm
I don’t know about a frying pan, but I do know the deadliest mass murder in a school was done with a match. Maybe, just maybe, it’s these crazied individuals we need to deal with. After all how many times did we find out they had known major mental issues and authority chose to ignore the problem?
Carl A. Ferrigno
September 10, 2018 at 10:44 pm
Shoot them all.
Ban automobiles.
Alice
September 11, 2018 at 3:36 am
Martin, citation?
Howard Breidenbach
September 10, 2018 at 4:51 pm
Pretty busy minding other people’s business aren’t they. It’s the same as killing the cat because the dog bit me
Bobcrooner
September 10, 2018 at 4:52 pm
Gun and Constitution hating morons with no concern for facts.freedom and Constitutional loving citizens had better get in the fight now to save your rights
Lydia Johnston
September 11, 2018 at 2:57 pm
Look up the statistics on how many mass shootings were done with ‘assault rifles’. It will surprise those that are hollering for ‘assault weapons’ to be outlawed. Which has already happened.
They were outlawed years ago.
BobbiSue
September 10, 2018 at 5:04 pm
One of the first things we on the right and the side of the constitution have to do is STOP using the term”assault rifle”it is a word set that came into existence with the Clinton administration. The left thinks it knows something but looking these words up in the dictionary and in legal terms it doesn’t say anything about a semi automatic rifle
chris hale
September 10, 2018 at 6:52 pm
You haven’t looked up the definition lately have you? Because… it’s there. We may as well give up on the nitpicking … doesn’t matter what they are called. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN THEM.
Jon
September 10, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Let’s ban all the scary looking guns!! A gun with a pretty wood handle is obviously safe, but those scary gun metal black ones are dangerous.
Assault weapons already has a definition…a gun that fires multiple bullets with one a single pull of the trigger. News flash, these are already banned.
rob
September 10, 2018 at 5:52 pm
They’re concerned about weapons that according to the latest FBI UCR were only involved in 374 homicides. They’re not at all concerned about the hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses that occur each year.
Steve
September 10, 2018 at 10:15 pm
That sounds like ALL rifles combined. So called “assault rifles” would be a small sub category of that.
Anthony Little
September 10, 2018 at 6:24 pm
It only becomes an assault riffle when you try to take it away.
3manfan
September 10, 2018 at 6:27 pm
Lol…..yeah. Good luck with THAT.
It’ll never happen, much ado about nothing.
Wilford Pennington
September 10, 2018 at 6:31 pm
Law abiding people are always getting screwed around because of what some dumb ass has done. I’m telling you, these folks are getting fed up with it. Even if you pass your stupid laws, the good guys are going push back. Most people are not going to give up their weapons and alot, I mean, ALOT of people are going to die. Whether it be the police, or the weapons owner. Start minding your own damn business.
Dean willingham
September 10, 2018 at 6:35 pm
Can’t believe people are still arguing about the definition of assault style weapons.
Frank Labanovich
September 10, 2018 at 6:44 pm
Another good reason to join the NRA
hippybiker
September 10, 2018 at 6:51 pm
911 What’s the trouble?
Caller:Someone is in our house and we don’t believe in owning guns.
911: We’ll send the Coroners wagon as soon as we can.
Ralph
September 10, 2018 at 6:53 pm
Banning these guns won’t save a single life. In other countries which banned guns, the weapon of choice changed and even more people in those nations which banned guns are now being murdered with knives. You cannot legislate human behavior without changing the atmosphere which fans violence such as the media. Prior to the Nazis, German Weimar Republic banned all guns hoping to stem mass murder. When the Nazis were elected into office those laws guaranteed the Nazis had all the guns. This is one example of many oppressive nations. In the end as your good intentions many be the catalyst to guarantee a return to the past. Criminals and violence needs to be addressed not the law abiding who owns weapons legally.
hippybiker
September 10, 2018 at 6:54 pm
911 What’s the trouble?
Caller:Someone is in our house and we don’t believe in owning guns.
911: We’ll send the Coroners wagon as soon as we can.
Tom Stone
September 10, 2018 at 7:18 pm
Do these people realize that out of about 10000 murders a year in this country only approximately 350 are committed with a rifle of any kind, including so-called assault rifles? That more people are killed with fists, feet, baseball bats, and virtually every other kind of firearm? Do they realize that they were over 10 million in private hands right now? That out of the seven hundred or more murders a year in Chicago almost none of them are committed with an “assault” rifle?
It’s kind of the definition of pissing into the wind and barking up the wrong tree.
Drew G.
September 11, 2018 at 10:49 pm
This “Assault Weapons Ban” is only the start. If they accomplish getting this ban, they’ll move on to banning “all Semi-automatics”. Than if they were ever to accomplish that, they’d just move on to the next catagory of firearms. No matter what they state about “enacting common sense gun control” that includes banning all civilian gun ownership and don’t think for a minute that’s not true. They despise gun owners, period. They don’t understand why gun owners feel so strongly about their firearms, 2nd Amendment, AR’s, etc… Why do you think “the Australian gun buyback” always comes up” ?? That is simply a ruise for gun confiscation, but sounds better and something they feel the average American might get behind.
john markey
September 10, 2018 at 7:55 pm
Guns in the wrong hands kill people
mark baker
September 10, 2018 at 7:58 pm
“Gun control advocates did achieve a victory following the Parkland massacre with the passage of a bipartisan law which raised the minimum age to purchase a firearm to 21-thus saving the lives of innocent people.”
More teens/people are killed in automobile related accidents than by ‘assault rifles’, so you could save many many more innocent people’s lives by raising the driving age to 21.
John Moravecek
September 10, 2018 at 8:20 pm
There’s no assault rifles
Idiots
Jon
September 10, 2018 at 8:20 pm
Haha they are “still trying to define what assault weapon is” that’s because that could be any gun. The definition “drawing from federal and state law definitions, the term assault weapon refers primarily to semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that are able to accept detachable magazines and possess one or more other features.” So let’s not sugar coat it as just assult weapons, it’s a total gun ban, in FLORIDA, yeah let’s see if this even goes to a vote
John Moravecek
September 10, 2018 at 8:23 pm
No such thing as an assault weapon
Rev. Ronald Baker
September 10, 2018 at 11:51 pm
Assault weapon could be any things that used to assault you with LOL they have no idea what they’re talking about do they
Wacka Mole
September 10, 2018 at 8:24 pm
“…our goal is to take military-style firearms off the shelf, thereby saving the lives of innocent people”.
This is magical thinking. Remember prohibition? Taking alcohol off the shelves to save the lives of…
How did that work out? These people have not spent a minute considering the unintended consequences of this dribble.
PS: Hand guns kill a lot more people than “military-style firearms”. Are you going to evidence the same lack of critical thinking and attempt to ban them next?
Louis
September 10, 2018 at 8:24 pm
BAWN and AFGSN can get bent.
Patrick Henry
September 10, 2018 at 8:33 pm
This is the most disgusting thing I have read all day. These people must be suffering from delusions of grandeur if they believe this sort of legislation has any chance of actually helping. It is amazing how easily people can be encouraged to march against their own Liberty and what saddens me more is that only empty promises await them should they succeed. Those who believe in their God given right to keep and bear arms should take heed and not let themselves be caught sleeping, our success is reliant on our vigilance.
Blessings of Liberty
Don Edwards
September 10, 2018 at 9:57 pm
Spot on, Sir!
Tom First
September 10, 2018 at 8:55 pm
There is one sure fire way to stop Progressives from using the term Assault Rifle. Tell them it was first used by Hitler. That may just be an urban legend but it should do the trick.
Scott W
September 10, 2018 at 9:37 pm
This is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving. Silly.
Rob
September 10, 2018 at 9:43 pm
Agreed
Mark
September 10, 2018 at 9:47 pm
Idiots !
OhioAnon
September 10, 2018 at 9:55 pm
Anyone pushing for a weapons ban needs to hang as a traitor
Don Edwards
September 10, 2018 at 9:55 pm
Sadly, NOTHING in either of these proposed amendments can keep and evil or insane person from entering a “gun free zone” and killing indiscriminately. Nothing!
The ONLY thing that stops a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun.
Gabriel
September 10, 2018 at 9:58 pm
BAWN & AFGSN or whatever; let’s think in terms of education. From the millennials to now are not taught to know our Constitution and the Bill of Rights! Why? Because we educate to the lowest common denominator. Attention all US History teachers, start today to teach to our children not just trying to get some test scores the government wants.
Fact: The 2nd Amendment is a lot more than telling Americans they can own firearms. It’s about the right to defend yourself against an invading country and against a corrupt government. There are several articles written from speeches from our founding fathers.
Consider this: Disarming the people is the quickest way to enslave them!
And if BAWN & AFGSN even remotely thinks this isn’t possible, remember Hitler/Germany.
JD
September 10, 2018 at 10:01 pm
No idea what constitutes an “assault weapon,” but they wish to ban “assault weapons????” Hmmmm
Lee James
September 12, 2018 at 1:50 pm
So does this mean we will next register women since they have prostitute style vaginas?
RL Beers
September 10, 2018 at 10:41 pm
They need to study American law. A state Constitution cannot override the federal Constitution.
Steve Bravy
September 10, 2018 at 11:10 pm
Rocks and knives neither have much range nor do they attack one at a rate of hundred of attacks. per minute. Wouldn’t quad 40mm guns provide an even better defense of one’s home.
SPQR
September 10, 2018 at 11:29 pm
“Gun control advocates did achieve a victory following the Parkland massacre with the passage of a bipartisan law which raised the minimum age to purchase a firearm to 21, among other restrictions.”
Which mainly affected long guns, which are seldom used in crime. Another “gun control success” which is ineffective at reducing crime and only affects the lawabiding.
Mike D.
September 11, 2018 at 12:50 am
A number of years ago some stupid senator wanted to limit the power of the electric generators on commercial aircraft engines, because he thought that was “too much power” to be that close to! God save us from know-nothing idiots! And they are alive and well!
Scott
September 11, 2018 at 1:15 am
The ATF clearly defines an assault weapon as any firearm capable of fully automatic or selectable fire. These types of weapons are already banned from private ownership by the National Firearms Act. The AR-15 is not a select fire rifle. A skilled marksman can do just as much damage with a lever action rifle as with an AR-15. How about instaed of infringing on law abiding citizens’ 2A rights, you spend time making the penalties for gun crimes stiffer, like the old 10/20/Life. Also how about dealing with the epidemic of teens being on psychotrpoic drugs. Look at the statistics of how many of these shooters are on some sort of brain chemical altering medications.
Chris
September 11, 2018 at 10:49 am
Regardless of any law that is passed, the criminals are going to find a way to possess and use these weapons in their criminal activities. These laws would only leave law a bidding citizens more vulnerable to these attacks. If everyone of legal age and sound mind carried a weapon, criminal activity would decline due to fear of actually having weapons turned on them by everyone they are trying to harm. I will NEVER turn over my RIGHTS and make myself more susceptible to being a victim.
William Platts
September 11, 2018 at 4:21 pm
Sorry, but according to every law in this country an assault weapon’s first defining feature is that it is a semi-automatic rifle.
Steve
September 11, 2018 at 1:42 am
Luckily for me, I don’t own assault weapons. I only own sport and self-defense weapons.
Buck
September 11, 2018 at 2:45 am
Hey Rion, seriously your last name is Nicole…..?
For such an “educated” person, I’m not sure that you were people like you are actually understanding or thinking about what it would actually mean, to try to take somebody’s unalienable right from them.
And you studied law?
Maybe you should study history instead.
People like you, would be the first to fall in the chaos that you would try to create.
It’s sad when people don’t really think through an idea thoroughly.
There is a huge amount of information involved
William
September 11, 2018 at 4:51 am
Even if passed it will not change a single thing. The 2nd Amendment via the 14th will still protect the right of Floridians to keep and bear assault weapons.
William Platts
September 11, 2018 at 4:55 am
What a total waste of time, and typical of the feel good crowd.
For even if passed, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
The 2nd Amendment via the 14th Amendment will still protect the right of Floridians to keep and bear assault weapons.
If only they would put this effort into doing something about the catch & release of violent criminals, we might actually see meaningful results.
Kevin
September 11, 2018 at 12:43 pm
Getting rid of the guns isn’t the issue . If everyone had a gun there would be less armed robbery and less mass shooting. I dont know about you but I don’t think I’d try to rob a store at gun point if everyone had a gun . Also you walk into a place to shoot it up. And most people have a gun. How many people do you think the shooter would kill before being killed themselves?
It’s pretty much common sense and to think that taking guns aways form law abiding folks . Will stop the criminals now thats stupidity on a whole new level. Criminals don’t buy guns at a store most of the time and they definitely are not bought legally. I build and own many ar-15’s none are registered. So they can ban them all they want I won’t be giving up any thing to anyone at anytime
Eddie Rolison
September 11, 2018 at 7:16 am
Meanwhile, handguns remain the weapons responsible for the supermajority of gun deaths in America.
Diesel Pusher
September 11, 2018 at 7:59 am
Most of these comments are on the money about these gun control groups. This is a fight they won’t give up. What hasn’t been mentioned is MONEY. They can’t have an operation to ban the AR without money. George Soros comes to mind or Michael Bloomberg. They are throwing millions of $$$$ at banning the Ar 15, and possibly other guns, as in hand guns. So this won’t go away anytime soon. They, Soros, Bloomberg, Feinstein etc., won’t be happy until all guns from every law abiding citizen are confiscated. Look what’s going on now with States passing Red Flag Laws. A piece at a time, that’s what they’re doing.
William Groom
September 11, 2018 at 8:29 am
Come and take it! The mad man with history of mental problems and a collection on Twitter of anti Trump posts planned this.
Dave
September 11, 2018 at 10:00 am
This is what happens when people, who know little or nothing about a subject, decide they know what’s best for everyone on that (or any other) subject. Ignorance is a widespread handicap in this country. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people!
Seth L
September 13, 2018 at 12:37 am
Joke of un-informed people trying to ban somthing that 2 to 5% of fire arm deaths.. Scared of the looks…pistiols cause 90 of deaths and were not giving up those either.. Grow up.. Lowest crime rates in 100 years.8
Jesse Vasquez
September 11, 2018 at 11:14 am
If We, 2A supporters Ban the Demon-cratic Party, we won’t have to worry about any Gun Banning issue. (Lol)
DDS
September 11, 2018 at 11:23 am
1. Keep the terms “Assault Rifle”, as defined by the Department of Defense, and “Assault Weapon”, as defined by Josh Sugarman of the Violence Policy Center, separate. They are not one and the same thing.
2. I know what an Assault Weapon is. It has that “shoulder thing that goes up” per former Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY).
JamesHolliday
September 11, 2018 at 11:26 am
Ok People of Florida get out and Vote No to these Bans on AR 15s and Assault Rifles these people are idiots and dont know what they are talking about ok.plain and simple It was the Deputy Sheriffs fault period plain and of above all the truth .It wasn’t the Rifles fault nor the Gun Manufacturers nor the Bullets nor the Magazine nor because it was Black and looked like a Military Rifle not was it a Automatic Weapon Put the Blame where its do ok Nicholas Cruise the shooter and the deputy sheriff that stood outside the building and the kid and did not confront Nicholas Cruz and let this whole incident happen I put the blame clearly on the deputy sheriff and Nicholas Cruz Period End of Story liberals if you want to go after someone try you focuses on the Deputy Sheriff and the Sheriffs Department then are the real culprits of not doing the sworn duty as officers of the law
JamesHolliday
September 11, 2018 at 11:35 am
Ok People of Florida get out and Vote No to these Bans on AR 15s and Assault Rifles these people are idiots and dont know what they are talking about ok.plain and simple It was the Deputy Sheriffs fault period plain and of above all the truth .It wasn’t the Rifles fault nor the Gun Manufacturers nor the Bullets nor the Magazine nor because it was Black and looked like a Military Rifle not was it a Automatic Weapon Put the Blame where its do ok Nicholas Cruz the shooter and the Deputy Sheriff that stood outside the building and did nothing while the kids and teachers were being killed and did nothing to confront Nicholas Cruz and let this whole incident happen I put the blame clearly on the deputy sheriff and Nicholas Cruz Period End of Story liberals if you want to go after someone try you focuses on the Deputy Sheriff and the Sheriffs Department they are the real culprits of not doing the sworn duty as officers of the law
Lawrence
September 11, 2018 at 2:36 pm
Good luck…. We The People are Readybto take back our country from you cowards…
Tom
September 11, 2018 at 3:51 pm
Will any of the spokespersons of these groups be willing to go on the record supporting violence to take “assault” weapons away from Florida’s citizens?
You can respond to me at [email protected]
This amendment would contradict Florida’s right to bear arms constitutional amendment. That would make it vulnerable to be declared unconstitutional.
If this amendment does succeed and is upheld in the courts, I will lead a drive to amend the state constitution that would subject Florida law enforcement agencies to the same gun control laws civilians are required to comply with.
William Platts
September 11, 2018 at 4:15 pm
It was suggested in Miller that a militia purpose may be necessary to be covered which assault weapons would certainly have. Further the Court also stated that any ordinary military arms (select fire M16) would certainly be covered.
Push comes to shove by trying to ban assault weapons they may open the door to people being able to get actual military weapons including machine guns without all the current restrictions.
Ava8harrierusmc1
September 11, 2018 at 4:16 pm
I will not give my AR-15s I will not give up my M-14 I will not give up any of my god given rights to people like them. When you do that it’s when the men in black will up late one night.
Ralph
September 11, 2018 at 5:59 pm
On 9/11 almost 3000 people perished and not one gun used. In fact the Gun Control Act of 1968 specifically banned legal guns on airlines. Thanks for thinking of more laws or amendments to control victims and the law abiding.
Ralph
September 11, 2018 at 6:09 pm
What qualifies you to call anyone an idiot. Our point is the fact non of you give a damn about saving children or resolving violence. Guns or fry pans don’t make people violent so based upon instrumentality sir, when you call people names your identifying yourself.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/world/asia/man-stabs-22-children-in-china.html
John
September 11, 2018 at 9:49 pm
Ban toilets, over 600 deaths, 17,000 kids committed suicide, 17,000 die because they are texting and driving,, overdoses 18,000 , ban stupid people and ban them from breeding. Fix the kids and the mental health problem if you want to save kids.every97 seconds a child is aborted . So how is banning a gun going to save them ? They will just go buy a gas can. You can’t stop stupid
John
September 11, 2018 at 10:37 pm
When I went to high school we all had buck knives in school and most of guys hunted before and after school so we had guns and ammunition in our cars AT SCHOOL! No one was every stabbed or shot or even threatened. So it’s not the guns they were very well behaved weapons because they never got themselves out of the car and walked it self in school. So it’s the Kids and their idiot parents that didn’t want to spank little bobby because they might hurt his widdle feeling. The parents don’t parent anymore they give the kids a tv and a video game and that’s their mentors. So your a collaborator if you want to disarm Americans, remember the Jews in world war 2 that walked their own people in to the gas chambers. Look up stupid people and the stupid way they die. How many children go missing every day, we can LoJack our cars but not kids. Too much money to protect kids, people are to cheap because they all think it won’t happen to them. How many children die from drunk drivers and we haven’t ban cars yet. Blondes can’t chew gum and walk at the same time and they haven’t ban gum yet. Ban boobs you know how many kids get poked with them nipples they might loose an eye. I just read where a little girl got flesh eating bacteria trying on shoes ban shoes.
Drew G.
September 11, 2018 at 10:41 pm
Stand strong against these “gun grabbers”. Give um an inch, they’ll take a foot. The second they accomplish their “Assault Weapons Ban” they’ll move on to banning “all Semi-automatics”. They’ll NEVER stop as no matter what they say, their ultimate goal is to disarm the American public in whole. No if’s, an’s, or but’s. They won’t be satisfied until all firearms / guns are illegal to own.
txfella
September 11, 2018 at 11:12 pm
Well my do-gooder friends, just know that any and all restriction by any government entity is a violation of our constitutionally protected civil rights, so……….
txfella
September 11, 2018 at 11:14 pm
restriction ( of arms)…..
Carl
September 12, 2018 at 9:04 am
To all you people who want to ban firearms, and lets be clear, that’s what this is. I have a test for you. Take a loaded firearm, anyone, it doesn’t matter. Make sure it’s fully loaded. Place it on a table in a large room. After 24 hours come back and tell me how many people it killed. Come back after one week, and till me how many people it killed, one month later, how many people did it kill. One year later, and I know this number should be high. Now last phase of this test. Put that same loaded gun in a room with a person who has a heart filled with hate and mental problems. Now send in a few unarmed people and given me a body count. Keep sending them in till you give one a firearm. Tell me what changed with the first firearm, and what stopped it from being miss used. How long was it being miss used? Do you think maybe it stopped because you sent a law-abiding person with firearm in? Try it,just make sure you are the person that goes in after the good guy with the gun. Then come back and tell me what was the real problem!
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