Jacob Ogles
Twitter temporarily took down a post by Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo on guidance against COVID-19 vaccines for those under 40. The move comes as medical experts and scientists criticize the Florida Department of Health recommendations for being based on weak data that never saw peer review.
Ladapo on Friday issued new guidance recommending against mRNA vaccinations for COVID-19. “Studying the safety and efficacy of any medications, including vaccines, is an important component of public health,” Ladapo said. “Far less attention has been paid to safety and the concerns of many individuals have been dismissed — these are important findings that should be communicated to Floridians.”
The Department of Health release claimed an 84% increase had been found in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. That followed what the agency described as analysis through a self-controlled case-series.
But the methodology drew immediate criticism from experts.
The guidance was based on cross-referencing data from the state’s reportable disease repository, the Florida State Health Online Tracking System and death records from the state’s vital statistics.
Dr. Kristen Panthagani, an emergency medicine resident at Yale who has written widely on COVID-19 vaccination data, noted the analysis appeared to be a Microsoft Word document that listed no authors and had not faced any kind of peer review.
“They looked at death certificates, and any death that had an ICD 10 code under ‘Other forms of heart disease’ (ICD I30-I52) was included,” Panthagani said in a social media post.
“1. ICD-10 codes are not necessarily accurate or specific. 2. There isn’t a clear rationale why they included these specific ICD-10 codes vs other cardiac-related codes (i.e. ischemic heart disease is not included?). 3. “Cardiac arrest” is included, which simply means ‘the heart stopped’ and can be the terminal event for many different diseases, not just cardiac issues. Overall, it is a somewhat random list defined not by a hypothesis, but by the arbitrary structure of hospital billing. In short, this list is too broad to be meaningful, excludes some cardiac issues but not others, and most of the diagnoses are far more likely to be caused by other ongoing disease processes rather than vaccination.”
Holden Thorp, editor-in-chief of the Science family of medical journals, called the analysis a “bogus study.”
“Unreal that University of Florida allows this to go unchecked,” he tweeted.
The concerns prompted Twitter to take down a tweet from Ladapo as misinformation, as shown in a screenshot shared by Bryan Griffin, Press Secretary for Gov. Ron DeSantis.
“Twitter censored data posted by the Florida State Surgeon General that showed an increase risk of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination,” he said. “This is an unacceptable and Orwellian move for narrative over fact.”
The post taken down from Ladapo’s account announced the release of new guidance. “This analysis showed an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39,” he tweeted. “Florida will not be silent on the truth.”
Based on Twitter post timings, the post appeared to be down for two hours.
32 comments
Tom
October 9, 2022 at 12:31 pm
The lunatic right wing is gonna get people killed. They constantly have to be babysat and spanked. By God when will these people be ejected from government?
Ian
October 10, 2022 at 1:25 pm
This coming from the wing that thinks men can get pregnant.
Roland
October 11, 2022 at 1:26 pm
Who said men can get pregnant? If a male thinks he was born in the wrong body, that has nothing to do with me.
Virginia Dart
October 21, 2022 at 5:37 pm
We are totally unready for the new variant that is hospitalizing all the Germans now. I see no signs that we have the type of public health program that can get us through unscathed.
PeterH
October 9, 2022 at 12:41 pm
Quack quack says America’s antivax nutcases. Ladapo is not alone! DeSantis hires only the best clowns!
Virginia Dart
October 9, 2022 at 3:10 pm
University of Florida readers need to get their program together and prevent another incident like this. This study used data from the early months of COVID and wasn’t peer reviewed. A travesty.
Peter
October 9, 2022 at 5:26 pm
Ignorant dictatorial twats pushing an experimental vaccine that does not work; it does not prevent contagion or transmission. Claims to prevent hospitalization with self-claimed (as per CDC) effectiveness with two doses was 24% against COVID-19-associated hospitalizations. Fraud for which the media (including here) block all opposing views. Everyone pushing this deserves all the known and suspected negative effects of the vaccine.
Matt Paul
October 9, 2022 at 5:50 pm
Unbelievable. I finally found a copy of where the info came from. This guy should be shot. Such blatant misinformation. Remarkably misleading. First of all being, you know what caused more severe problems in the same group??? COVID!!!!
cyndi m lenz
October 10, 2022 at 7:37 am
Where are the Florida Doctors?
Kirk
October 15, 2022 at 3:27 am
https://youcanknowthings.com/2022/10/09/a-critical-review-of-floridas-new-vaccine-analysis/
Bill H
October 10, 2022 at 10:57 am
Wow at the comments! Cannot believe people still want to believe in/trust these vaccines. Multiple countries have come to this same conclusion already. These shots do nothing but harm people. Nobody can say they know for sure these work. Just because someone gets this vaccine and “has a mild case of covid” does not necessarily mean it helped. I have a friend who’s father was perfectly healthy prior to getting the shots, and now he is having all kinds of problems, but never has gotten covid.
Virginia Dart
October 11, 2022 at 8:20 pm
“I have a friend who’s father…” is not evidence that you should present in this forum. Was your friend’s father’s incident reported in the nationwide file that doctors use to report health events related to vaccination?
Tjb
October 10, 2022 at 4:45 pm
Florida has the 13 worst Covid death rate on a per capita basis in the USA. Florida Covid death rate i Quantitative easing s 1.5 times greater than California. A state that DeSantis often mock for having a poor policy towards Covid prevention.
Eileen M Wahl
October 10, 2022 at 5:06 pm
Florida’s death rate per 100,000 is worse than California’s for good reason. Number 1; Florida has the largest percent of senior citizens, a little over 20% vs California’s at approximately 14%. Number 2; 75% of Covid deaths were those 65 and older.
To give a true analysis of death rate due to Covid, an age related comparison would be a more accurate way to determine lethality by state.
Tjb
October 11, 2022 at 9:23 am
The DeSantis administration’s, specially Christina Pushaw, constantly praised the Governor for having the best state Covid policy. Even if you consider the disparity in seniors, his Covid policies are far being the best … just ask the families that lost a love one to Covid.
My question, did DeSantis do enough to protect all citizens in Florida, especially our Seniors?
Eileen M Wahl
October 12, 2022 at 4:29 pm
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-desantis-covid-press-conference-20201222-t2tbkd7dpzdfdngj2blmp3raaq-story.html
DeSantis (rightly) ignored the CDC to vaccinate the elderly before essential workers. He was loudly criticized for it but in the end, it was the correct decision. The Department of Health and Human Services ended up doing a study and concurring that his approach saved lives.
eileen m wahl
October 12, 2022 at 4:52 pm
I’m curious what disparity in seniors you are referring to. If it’s because of their higher mortality, the answer is staring you in the face. Covid is more lethal/serious the older you are.
As for DeSantis policy, he’s been exceptional for seniors. He ignored the CDC’s guidance and made sure they were inoculated before essential workers, which was the correct course of action.
eileen m wahl
October 12, 2022 at 4:54 pm
The Department of Health and Human Services would later do a study and concurred that DeSantis approach saved lives.
Joseph dagostino
October 11, 2022 at 9:59 am
In New Hampshire, where I believe covid reporting was accurate, deaths were 90%+ over age 60. A TOTAL of 36 deaths under age 40 and 1 under age 20 that was a child with cancer.
Amusing Florida has 50% more elderly hence the 50% more deaths.
Eileen M Wahl
October 10, 2022 at 5:34 pm
Interesting that a number of Nordic countries are limiting at least the Moderna vaccine to older people because of the risk of myocarditis.
Tjb
October 11, 2022 at 9:35 am
As you stated they are limiting at least the Moderna vaccine, fortunately there are three other alternatives:
1 Pfizer-BioNTech
2 Novavax
3 Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) (However, CDC recommends that the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine only be considered in certain situations, due to safety concerns.
nail
October 11, 2022 at 12:03 pm
You must have missed the latest report done bu the Auditor General.
Fl is rated the worse state per Capita. Of course the Covid deniers lie, they are MAGAts. It has now become their job to dent all proven info.
The AH came with a note attached to him from UCLA “Do not hire” but DeSantis being another Covid and everything good for the state and the country pushed him through the sycophant GQP even when they objected. What state does a governor threaten his legislature “if you do not do what I say, you will be punished.?”
One question tells it all “Did the vaccines stop deaths in those that had the vaccine, verses those that did not? Ladapo the voodoo doctor would not and could answer the question. Five minutes he cited all debunked info.
Meanwhile FL has had the most deaths in any age group, even children under 18. All to prove a radical extremist view that has killed hundreds of thousands.
DeSantis even fired a Pediatric doctor that was trying to help other pediatricians get the vax for children under 5 because DeSantis would not order it for FL. The only state in the country, that would not ave a child under 5 if the parents waned it. The parents were going out of state for weeks, before the doctor arranged for the Pediatricians were allowed to work with the government to get the drug. DeSantis lied about this also, which is why he fired the doctor. As anyone in the state knows, you do not say out loud DeSantis’s lies.
This is the authoritarian at work. FL does not want fascism or an authoritarian in it’s government. We need someone who will tell the truth and be a man about it. DeSantis is neither a truth teller or a man, he is a coward and a weakling. Thinking that the minority MAGAts are going to elect him. It will never happen.
What goes around comes around. We found out today that over 2 M mainly MAGAts are not viable to vote. Every Dem should thank DeSantis for his new voting laws…..
Wendy
October 10, 2022 at 5:50 pm
This is the medical equivalent of the pillow guy’s “proof” the election was stolen. Ladpapo is a disgrace as is DeSantis for his attempts to destroy the university system.
Unmasked Illuminati
October 10, 2022 at 6:37 pm
The amount of people that believe COVID-19 exists in the natural world is comical. NEWSFLASH: It was hoax all along, see Event 201, Clade X and a number of other forms of programming. Viruses are poisons, see the Latin translation.There is no invisible Boogieman out to get you.
Be offended.
Mac Davis
October 10, 2022 at 9:03 pm
Some men(and women) you just can’t reach…so you get what we got here…which is they way thay wants it
Roland
October 11, 2022 at 2:16 pm
It is funny that now trumpers don’t know what to think. Should they take the vaccine because trump was the greatest president history and his administration was responsible for it. Or should they not take it because it is a liberal conspiracy.
Decisions decisions. . .
Phil Morton
October 12, 2022 at 7:56 am
Florida is leading the nation in new covid deaths. Pretty much all you need to know about our fake Surgeon General.
Kelly S Robbins
October 12, 2022 at 3:32 pm
I just love how people call Desantis a fascist or authoritarian- for opposing the medical tyranny imposed on the citizens of this country by the Feds.
Giving Florida residents the right to choose what medical treatments they wish to receive- blocking sweeping mandates- is the opposite of a fascist, in case anyone actually cares to investigate.
Do people realize that they are being propagandized into following medical tyranny, which removes the inalienable right to bodily autonomy? Wanting others to be forced to take medicine against their wishes – or lose their income- is the definition of an authoritarian stance.
In America, our founders valued the liberty of the individual- NOT the collective. Those who think the federal government has the right to impose lockdowns and business closures on the citizens of the United States are MISTAKEN!
In AMERICA, WE THE PEOPLE DECIDE!
We decide where we live, what we do for work, who we marry, how many kids to have, what to do for fun, and most certainly, WE DECIDE what we put into our bodies- in the form of food or drug! We will not be ruled over by tyrants who preach to us about the “collective!”
In America, we are self governing citizens, and it’s time to remember that and educate ourselves. It’s much easier to remove liberty and freedom from an ill-informed people. Know your rights as citizens so you’ll know when they are being trampled on.
The current administration is a good example of authoritarianism!
Eileen M Wahl
October 12, 2022 at 4:32 pm
Bravo Kelly!
Rabil
October 19, 2022 at 8:11 pm
Ha! Ha! Bodily autonomy – like woman being able to get abortions? Apparently bodily autonomy is no longer a right according to SCOTUS. No one is forced to get vaccinated. People are free to ignore the experts at their peril.
Brian Brady
October 21, 2022 at 12:47 pm
The President, in a September 19, 2022 “60 Minutes” interview, declared the end of the pandemic. These MNRA shots are immaterial–it’s over
marcus
October 21, 2022 at 1:53 pm
Elon Musk is set to officially take control of twitter by the end of next week. BYE, BYE, left wing, progressive censorship!
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