Many voters are weary about a Joe Biden-Donald Trump rematch it 2024. Third parties hope they can fill the gap

Election 2022 Florida
Third party candidates insist voters are restless enough to defy history.

The 2024 presidential election is drawing an unusually robust field of independentthird-party and long shot candidates hoping to capitalize on Americans’ ambivalence and frustration over a likely rematch between Democrat Joe Biden and Republican Donald Trump.

Those looking to blaze a new path to the White House range from members of Congress to a prominent academic and a scion of one of the county’s most prominent political families.

Their odds are exceedingly long.

George Washington was the only person to win the presidency without a party affiliation. An incumbent hasn’t lost his party’s presidential nomination since Democrats passed over Franklin Pierce in 1856. Abraham Lincoln’s election in 1860 marked the last time someone from a new party — in his case, the Republican Party — won the White House.

But with the United States deeply divided and somewhat anxious about the prospect of another Biden-Trump campaign, third party candidates insist voters are restless enough to defy history.

“This is really fertile ground now for independent politics,” Jill Stein, the Green Party nominee in 2012 and 2016, said in an interview. “There’s so much hunger for a principled politics, a politics of integrity, and for options outside of the two zombie candidates that are being forced down our throats, and the two zombie political parties.”

Little-known candidates with no chance of victory run every year and sometimes piece together enough votes to make a difference in close races, even if they don’t win. But the activity this fall has been notable.

Stein, a physician and environmental activist, announced this month that she will make her third bid for the presidency in 2024, reversing course from her earlier decision to remain on the sidelines next year and support Cornel West, a scholar and progressive activist with a loyal following on the left. West announced last month that he no longer was running under the Green Party banner, but as an independent.

Stein said she has felt dissatisfaction with the major parties growing steadily since her first presidential campaign and “it’s off the charts now.”

Seventy-five percent of Americans think Biden should not run for president again, and 69% think Trump should not, according to an August poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. Both men are underwater with their approval ratings, meaning more Americans view them unfavorably than favorably.

Americans think Biden, 81, is too old and they are divided about criminal charges against Trump, 77, who has been indicted four times and is facing trial next year.

Nearly 80% said Biden is too old to be effective for four more years. About half of Americans approved of the Justice Department indicting Trump over his efforts to remain in office after losing the 2020 election to Biden.

Conscious of their candidates’ middling approval ratings, Democrats and Republicans are watching the third-party campaigns with wariness.

Many Democrats blame Stein for Trump’s victory over Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016. Stein won 1.5 million votes as Trump defeated Clinton by the slimmest of margins in a few swing states. Democrats assume that many of voters supporting a progressive environmental activist would likely have chosen Clinton if forced to choose between the major parties.

Stein takes umbrage at the suggestion that votes can be “stolen” from the major parties.

Meanwhile, a little-known Minnesota congressman is challenging Biden in the Democratic primary. Rep. Dean Phillips of Minnesota says Democrats are sleepwalking into disaster with their march toward renominating an unpopular president who is the oldest person to hold the office.

“I’m just saying the quiet part out loud,” Phillips said in an interview in South Carolina. “Everybody else is still staying in line, shushing up, sitting down and doing what you do to make sure you get the money for your next election.”

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., last month ended his Democratic primary challenge to Biden and is running instead as an independent. Kennedy, an environmental lawyer and anti-vaccine activist, has higher approval ratings among Republicans than Democrats despite his deep familial ties to the Democratic Party. Kennedy’s uncle was the President John F. Kennedy and his father was Sen. Robert F. Kennedy.

Kennedy has developed close relationships with far-right figures and has a kinship with some conservatives drawn to his fringe views, including his vocal distrust of COVID-19 vaccines, which studies have shown are safe and effective against severe disease and death.

His anti-vaccine organization, Children’s Health Defense, currently has a lawsuit pending against a number of news organizations, among them The Associated Press, accusing them of violating antitrust laws by taking action to identify misinformation, including about COVID-19 and COVID-19 vaccines. Kennedy took leave from the group when he announced his run for president but is listed as one of its attorneys in the lawsuit.

No Labels, a well-funded group that is laying the groundwork for a possible bipartisan ticket, is working toward ballot access in all 50 states, with more than a dozen already approved. The plan has caused increasing anxiety among Democrats who its support will come primarily from would-be Biden voters, easing Trump’s path back to the White House. If the group managed to win one or more states, it could result in no candidate receiving a majority of the Electoral College votes and the election being decided by the House of Representatives.

No Labels has said little about how it will choose a candidate. The party planned to release a selection process in October, but the timeline slipped to November and it appears to be slipping further.

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., announced this month he will not run for reelection next year but will travel the country to consider an independent presidential campaign. At the same time, a new group emerged calling for Manchin and Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, the GOP presidential nominee in 2012, to run under the No Labels ticket.

The group is raising money for polling to test the viability of a bipartisan ticket with the two retiring senators, starting in Arizona and Michigan, according to Jennifer Franks, chairman of the Draft Romney/Manchin Committee. Romney considered running for president but abandoned the effort after concluding it would help Trump, according to a Romney biography by journalist McKay Coppins published last month.

Manchin said he will seek to invigorate centrists who feel left out of the political system and he will consider running if no one emerges to represent their interests in the presidential campaign. He insists he’s “not going to be anybody’s spoiler.”

“I’m not going out there running,” Manchin told reporters in West Virginia this month. “I’m going out there with the mission to bring Americans together.”

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Republished with permission from The Associated Press.

 

Associated Press


17 comments

  • PeterH

    November 26, 2023 at 4:40 pm

    Please QC the headline!

    • My Take

      November 27, 2023 at 8:12 am

      Weary and wary both can work.
      So woulld worried.

  • Larry Gillis, Libertarian (Cape Coral)

    November 26, 2023 at 4:46 pm

    You failed to mention the Libertarian Party, which has ballot access in all 50 states. We represent a principled alternative to the present menu, which offers different tranches of the same basic lasagna.

    See http://www.lp.org

    • JD

      November 26, 2023 at 7:19 pm

      The issue I see with any Libertarianism gains is people perceive it will just dilute their vote against not allowing the “other guy” win (nobody seems to vote “for” but rather “against”).

      How will the party counter that sentiment and attract the independents or on the fence moderates of both sides?

      Other than New Mexico, I don’t recall much of a foothold, and I don’t recall them taking an electorate vote (I could be wrong – and this question is not meant as a poke, but a legit debate).

      I think I may some innate issues with the ideology, but it’s not without merit.

      • My Take

        November 26, 2023 at 8:32 pm

        The handful of avowed libertarians I have encountered up close have been kooks. I personally prefer that, say, surgeons and aìrline piĺots have to be tested and licensed.
        But there must be many far more reasònable libertarians out there.

    • June Genis

      November 27, 2023 at 11:34 am

      Unfortunately due to more restrictive ballot access laws in New York state the LP may not be able to get on the ballot there in 2024 although they would have under the old rules. To get rid of vote dilusion problems caused by third parties we need to change our electoral system from the current first past the post/winner takes all system to one that uses Ranked Choice Voting. Unfortunately because of the Electoral College a further constitutional change may also be need for Presidential elections.

  • Earl Pitts "America's-Go-To-Political--Guru" American

    November 26, 2023 at 7:08 pm

    Good evening America,
    As the messenger of America’s 💩 4 🧠’s leftist politicians the messages are all there in every AP article. You, the voting leftist American Sheeple, are expected to study these AP articles to get your latest leftist talking points and marching orders.
    It’s all there for you lefty’s.
    You non-Patriot Sheeple are discouraged from self-thought. Your thoughts come from AP articles.
    Yours truly,
    Earl Pitts American

    • JD

      November 26, 2023 at 7:13 pm

      Stop conflating your neo-fascism with patriotism. At best you’re populist and then that’s usually a push to fascism.

      You groomer RINO because God knows, the Gipper is f@cking rolling in his grave at the “big tent” is not the “freak show” and you all aren’t Republicans anymore – DeSantis included.

      • Earl Pitts "America's-Go-To-Political--Guru" American

        November 26, 2023 at 7:22 pm

        Good evening America,
        There’s a 8utt-load of Leftist double speaking nonsense in the comment good ‘Ole JD just squeezed out if your interested in smelling that noxious stink.
        Thank you,
        Earl Pitts American

        • rick whitaker

          November 26, 2023 at 9:29 pm

          earl, jd just exposed you for the hollow innate pos that you obviously are . doesn’t bother you huh, yeah right. guys like you have fragile egos so overcompensation is your go to mo. stick with desantis, that ought to get pretty painful next year. i’m so glad you are in florida and i’m not.

          • Ocean Joe

            November 27, 2023 at 5:21 am

            I realize it’s almost December, but do we have to wait till next year for Desantis to drop out?

          • Earl Pitts "America's-Go-To-Political--Guru" American

            November 27, 2023 at 11:55 am

            Thank you Rick for your genius wacky leftist commentary cleverly designed to elevate my status as America’s Major Political Influncer!!!!
            EPA

  • My Take

    November 26, 2023 at 11:52 pm

    Britain waited until Hitler.was safely dead before they threw out Churchill.
    When someone has gotten the wooden stake into Trump it will be safer to consider change on the Dem side.

  • My Take

    November 27, 2023 at 3:20 am

    I would like to see Trump running 3rd party.
    After being eliminated somehow from the GOP ticket. It would be priceless.

  • Dont Say FLA

    November 27, 2023 at 1:14 pm

    The story on voter opinion is exactly as meaningful as it was last time when Biden won very handily and Trump cried very unmanily.

  • My Take

    November 27, 2023 at 2:17 pm

    Not wanting to contribute to the atmosphere of violence, I none-the-less think the 3rd party and independent candidates need to be told that if they get Trump elected we are going to put a bounty on their heads.

  • June Genis

    November 27, 2023 at 2:22 pm

    Its unfair to blame voters for flaws in the electoral system. If you have to hold your nose to vote for someone you really don’t want there is something very wrong with the system. I repeat, we need Ranked Choice Voting to stop this madness. RCV would at least allow voters to indicate who they really want but back it up with a lower preference for an “electable” candidate.

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