A.G. Gancarski
During a national town hall Tuesday, Ron DeSantis predictably diverged from President Joe Biden’s take that Israel is losing support globally because Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “doesn’t want a two-state solution.”
Rather, DeSantis rests blame with global “antisemitism” and dismisses objections to Israeli war strategy and the killing of civilians as “Hamas’ fault.”
“So I think it’s true that the world is coming after Israel, but it’s because of antisemitism, it’s because you have these people at the UN who are disgraceful, who are trying to blame Israel. They wouldn’t even condemn the Hamas attack at the United Nations.”
“So Israel gets targeted and singled out more than any other country in the world. They’re the only Jewish state in this world and everyone’s come gunning for them,” the 2024 presidential candidate said, during a CNN town hall hosted by Jake Tapper.
Biden said Tuesday night that Netanyahu “has a tough decision to make” and “has to strengthen and change” and consider a “two-state solution.”
That’s a non-starter for DeSantis.
“So you look at what may be happening in the Gaza Strip. If there’s civilian casualties, that is Hamas’ fault,” DeSantis said. “Hamas should release the hostages. Hamas should unconditionally surrender. Israel cannot possibly live with a terrorist group that wants to annihilate their entire country and kill every Jew and usher in a second Holocaust. So they have every right to defend themselves.”
Per the Associated Press, more than 18,000 Palestinians have been killed in this conflict, with nearly 2 million displaced from their homes.
“Now, in terms of the two state solution, I don’t think you can have a ‘two state solution’ when the Arabs will view it, the Palestinian Arabs will view it as a stepping stone to the destruction of Israel. Why have you not had a solution there? Because they’ve never recognized Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state. And until they’re willing to do that, anything that would be done would just weaken Israel.”
84 comments
SteveHC
December 12, 2023 at 10:19 pm
I hate to admit it as I am no DeSantis supporter but on this matter he is correct in every respect.
Earl Pitts "The "Ronald's" Un-Official Campaigne Manager" American
December 13, 2023 at 7:01 am
Good Morn ‘Ting my new Besty Lefty SteveHC,
Sage Wisdom about your view on “HamAss” my new Besty Lefty.
Once you cross the line and are deemed a terroist you have left your humanity behind and become fair game for extermination as we would rightly exterminate a pack of rabid dogs holed up in some underground hidey-hole with cynide gas or ….. hey heres an idea maybe flood the rabid dogs hidey-holes with sea water ….. yeah thats the tickit.
Thank you America,
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rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 7:43 am
CAUTION ⚠ TROLL COMMENT BY CRAZY EARL
cedric
December 18, 2023 at 9:44 pm
You need to stop drinking that DeSantis kool-aid…
cedric
December 18, 2023 at 9:52 pm
20,000 Dead, (6,000 CHILDREN)!!!!
COLLATERAL DAMAGE? 6,000 G** DAMN KIDS MAN!!!!! May Our CHILDREN Forgive us…….
As we Gather together this Holiday season …HUG YOU KIDS JUST A LITTLE CLOSER…Be Blessed and My God Bless the United States of America.
My Take
December 12, 2023 at 10:40 pm
A totally predictable panderer.
A shallow persona.))
WGD
December 12, 2023 at 11:59 pm
In attempting to pander to the Jewish vote, DeSantis overlooks the fact that many Jews do not think collective punishment is morally right, even in response to the outrages committed by Hamas. His reflexive opposition to anything Biden says or does is stupid enough on domestic issues. On foreign policy he sounds like an uninformed fool.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 5:18 am
Bin Laden surely blamed America for its 1000s of 9/11 dead.
Scoundrels do that.
Dont Say FLA
December 13, 2023 at 11:20 am
Bingo! Everybody’s the good guy, according to them. Sometimes it’s not so clear who is good or bad. War is murky and war is bad. Picking “the” good guy ain’t easy.
What Israel is doing to the buildings and infrastructure and residents of Gaza, that ain’t murky, not one bit. It’s heinous. It’s gotta stop.
Israel is destroying Hamas and the rest of Gaza today, but they’re also destroying themselves tomorrow.
michael Roberts
December 13, 2023 at 6:08 am
I think that Ron wakes up in the morning, looks at what is in the news, weighs the facts and picks the wrong side.. this is a perfect example.At least a third of Palestinian fatalities are children.Carpet bombing is not a surgical tactic.
Impeach Biden
December 13, 2023 at 6:15 am
Carpet bombing? How about precision bombing with JDAM’s. DeSantis is correct on this. What did Hamas think the response from Israel would be? Israel has had enough of the daily rocket attacks, that’s why they created the Iron Dome. They have also had enough of the periodic incursions by Hamas through their tunnel system to attack Israeli civilians. Israel is going to finish it this time.
Dont Say FLA
December 13, 2023 at 11:21 am
Lookit IBS, still deflecting points with changes of topics and whatabouts. Never actually addressing anyone’s point.
Impeach Biden
December 13, 2023 at 1:27 pm
I was responding to Michael Robert’s statement about carpet bombing. Either you missed his post or you have a reading comprehension issue.
Dont Say FLA
December 13, 2023 at 1:42 pm
Sure, IBS. “How abouts” are not “What abouts.” Gotcha. LOL.
Impeach Biden
December 13, 2023 at 3:45 pm
Yup, you have a reading comprehension problem. You racked up all that student debt and you can’t comprehend. Too bad.🤣
michael Roberts
December 13, 2023 at 4:25 pm
then why are the Israelis bombing medical facilities and refugee camps and why are 7000 children dead. The Israelis are sloppy They are guilty of war crimes. The bombing is systematically destroying all infrastructure. I heard an Israeli general say that Hamas can not be destroyed because it is an Ideology The way this is being fought is only creating more hate and growing another generation that will do the same thing. A UN negotiator said that there is no winner Both sides are losing
MH/Duuuval
December 14, 2023 at 8:08 pm
About 55% of Israel’s aerial ordnance has been in “smart” class.
Earl Pitts "The "Ronald's" Un-Official Campaigne Manager" American
December 13, 2023 at 7:24 am
Good Morn ‘Ting michael Roberts,
Please review my, Earl Pitts American’s post of common-sense Sage Wisdom above to fill the void left in your brain by your unfortunate exposure to deadly Dook 4 Brains Leftism.
Let me just leave you with a golden nugget of truth which will turn your life around for the better.
“michael Roberts; ” IT ‘AIN’T “NEWS” UNTIL EARL “WEIGHS IN”. So michael Roberts, do yourself a favor, and start following me, Earl Pitts Amerivan, for everything you need to know about politics.
Thank you michael Roberts,
Earl Pitts “Helping Dook 4 Brains Leftys Be Better People” American
rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 7:42 am
WARNING ⚠ TROLL COMMENT BY EARL HUMORLESS PITTS
Impeach Biden
December 13, 2023 at 9:31 am
Hey Earl Pitts. Be advised it looks like “Tennessee Progressive” Rick is stalking you.🤣
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 9:25 am
Not carpet bombing in the sense that modern bombing from fighters is targeted well enough that a lot of bombs are not wasted in streets, vacant lots, parking areas, etc. Buildings targeted are hit.
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Carpet bombing in the sense that vast numbers of buildings are bomed, vast numbers b re ìng most clearly civilian, ànd criteria for suspecting militia use seems to be very lax. The “carpet” parts is shown best (worst) in the civilian death toll.
Impeach Biden
December 13, 2023 at 9:34 am
You want a classic example of carpet bombing and wholesale destruction of towns, buildings and such, then look at Ukraine. Russia is slowly turning that country into a parking lot. No warnings to the populace, just pure destruction.
MH/Duuuval
December 15, 2023 at 9:40 am
True, so what is the reluctance to assist them?
michael roberts
December 13, 2023 at 9:47 am
Not carpet bombing like Viet nam but mass destruction of infrastructure not knowing who is being killed more than a third of fatalities are children. This grows a new generation of hate Israel started out as victim now the country is being rebuked for war crimes by the UN. Qatar has been paying millions to Hamas with the blessing of Israel now they know that was a mistake.
Sonja Fitch
December 13, 2023 at 6:24 am
There is absolutely NO GOOD reason for Killing!! There is absolutely No good reason for killing! EVER!!!!!!!!
Impeach Biden
December 13, 2023 at 7:17 am
Agreed. Then again it was Hamas that started this on October 6, Israel is simply finishing it. Let’s see those Arab nations over there stand up and take in these millions of Palestinian refugees.
MH/Duuuval
December 15, 2023 at 9:45 am
WHERE DO PALESTINE REFUGEES LIVE? (Over half live in refugee camps.) Stats from UN refugee agency.
Nearly one-third of the registered Palestine refugees, more than 1.5 million individuals, live in 58 recognized Palestine refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.
The remaining two thirds of registered Palestine refugees live in and around the cities and towns of the host countries, and in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, often in the environs of official camps.
michael Roberts
December 13, 2023 at 7:23 am
agree The point is that this sort of contention boils over every several years and innocent people are killed.In my opinion this latest example of stupidity will breed the next generation of hate on both sides.Netanyahu and others avoided dealing with Hamas for years for the sake of political expediency and here we are watching another rerun.
Tom
December 13, 2023 at 8:46 am
@michael Roberts – Sad but true. Maybe they’ll be able to flood the tunnels with sea water, have Abbas form some type of Government and let the innocents get back to some type of normality but they’ll be back at it again in a few years either way. In this case though, the optics are horrible. for Israel regardless of the justification.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 9:28 am
The more they think about flooding the more they worry about it. Drowning hostages tops the list.
Earl Pitts "The "Ronald's" Un-Official Campaigne Manager" American
December 13, 2023 at 8:21 am
Thank you so much, Beloved Sonja, for finally realizing your lifetime of being a Democratic voter emboldened Hamas to slaughter all those Jews on October 7th.
Thank you for taking the pledge with me, Earl Pitts American, to never, ever, pinky-shake-on-it to not vote Democrat ever again. And if they let us vote in Heaven to not vote Democrat their either.
You have been forgiven for your part in the massscre and will be OK as long as you vote Republican every time forever and ever AMEN.
Thank you Sonja, I’m so proud of how far we have come together in your noble quest back to sanity.
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rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 3:21 pm
michael, earl the dook freak wants you to join him, sad huh?
michael Roberts
December 14, 2023 at 8:59 pm
earl is a martian I know he is the guy that lives in his mom”s basement….unless its floriduh. then he lives in the garage
michael Roberts
December 13, 2023 at 8:35 am
E if you are working for Ron it’s understandable why he is tanking. Current polling has him in 4th place in South Carolina.
Earl Pitts "The "Ronald's" Un-Official Campaigne Manager" American
December 13, 2023 at 8:53 am
Thank you michael Roberts,
I forgive you for being a Dook 4 Brains Lefty and will be here for you should you ever decide to turn your life around and join us.
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rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 10:32 am
WARNING ⚠ TROLL COMMENT BY EARL THE FOOL PITTS
michael Roberts
December 13, 2023 at 2:52 pm
what is a look for brains lefty and is earl mentally impaired or is it just that he can not spell… He reminds me of the character on Andy Griffith that threw rocks at windows when he came out of the hills. Earnest T Bass. really funny comedian
rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 3:06 pm
michael roberts, earl is saying dook, not look. he calls shit dook because he thinks potty humor is funny. it is funny to a 5th grader, but not to me. he is 82 years old and is stuck in the 70’s with his constant use of potty and cornball humor. earnest t bass was funny, earl is not.
Earl Pitts "The "Ronald's" Un-Official Campaigne Manager" American
December 13, 2023 at 3:12 pm
Thank you michael Roberts for your honest inquiry. Its not Look 4 Brains – but rather we are talking “Dook 4 Brains”. And “Dook” is a nicer more on-line friendly term for:
Smelly Brown, Dookey, Squeezing out a big ‘Ole “Double-Flusher” Stink Bomb, its just best not to offend our beloved online host, The Beloved and Benevolant F. P. by using too many strong words related to Number 2 bathroom functions when speaking of what low IQ totally gulliable Leftys have as the 86 – 97% make-up of their brain matter.
Thanks again for your interest in all things Earl Pitts American. And I have approved your application to be a member of my Fan Club on a trisl basis.
Earl Pitts American
michael Roberts
December 13, 2023 at 4:18 pm
I got spellchecked. dook turned to look. why do those guys always have obtuse references ? I hired a fabricator that is a conspiracy guy.. I told him that trump is a circus clown and then he proceeded to extraterrestrial fodder. I gave him a wide birth because he understood where I was…. did good work nice guy. didn’t finish HS
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 9:04 am
Whose head on a pike (platter, or plaque) would remove the bigger impediment to peace?
Ĺikud’s
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 9:06 am
Likud’s Netanyahoo?
Hamas’s Sinwar?
Richard C. Russell
December 13, 2023 at 9:12 am
How’s that two state solution working out so far? All one sided: whenever the Muslim terrorists wanted to kill Jews, they did so at will! Israel should not stop until They have cleansed Israel of all Muslim terrorists! The deaths of “so called innocent” Palestinians is entirely the result of the terrorists hiding behind them, using them as shields in their attacks on Jews. They are worse than Hitler – At least Hitler didn’t hide behind his own innocent German people in World War Two.
michael Roberts
December 13, 2023 at 10:02 am
there is no two state situation The Israelis completely control Gaza. Hamas was elected back in 2006 and has gotten more radical over time. Palestine needs to be completely independent Not the current state it is in.
rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 10:35 am
richard russell, taking the side of hitler, what a strange dude you are.
MH/Duuuval
December 13, 2023 at 11:31 am
Check your facts: The ethnic cleansing going on in Israel has been done by Israel since 1948.
You, Dee, and many of the respondents here conflate Hamas and Palestinians.
That’s not accurate although once Israel is through with Gaza — when it’s a parking lot — it seems likely the rancor towards Israel among Palestinians and other mideastern states will be stronger than ever.
BTW: This is not a defense of Hamas, which won a 2006 election and immediately seized all levers of power to create their own version of Hell.
DJT appears to be following a similar script as Hamas as he plans his post-election strategy. And if he wins, the majority of Americans won’t support it.
rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 12:47 pm
mh/duuuval, your comment was well stated. you wasted your time on explaining a historical and common sense issue with richard russell. he’s never historically correct and has no common sense. that’s a trait of maga cultist’ it seems.
Lex
December 13, 2023 at 9:22 am
This is totally correct. The two-state solution had been on the table for over half a century. If Palestine would guarantee a final cessation of violence, a two-state solution was on the table. Palestinians do not want a state. This may also be an issue because for the most part, Palestine is a proxy for Iran and Iran does not want peace. Both Iran and Palestine have always chosen an end to the Jewish state over the creation of a Palestinian state. Hamas are terrorists who kill civilians. Just like other criminals Hamas is responsible for the collateral damage their crimes create. This should be an easy decision. If Israel cannot live in peace, Palestinians need to move out of the region.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 9:50 am
“If [ROME] cannot live in peace, [THE JEWS] need to move out of the region.”
That was tried close to 2000 years ago.
rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 10:38 am
lex, for someone who talks like they got it all figured out, you forgot one thing, facts
Dont Say FLA
December 13, 2023 at 11:29 am
Lex try to think of it in your terms as if you were in the shoes of Palestinians. As a MAGA, would you want a two-state solution in USA where MAGAs get a state, flyover country plus most of the South, while the “elite liberals” get both coasts? Nope. The MAGAs think the whole USA belongs to them. Palestinian think Palestine belongs to them. Until the imperialists USA and UK stole Palestine and gave most of it to Jewish people, Palestine DID belong to them. USA never even belonged to MAGAS, yet still, MAGAs won’t accept a two-state USA, The 2SA. Comprendo Lex?
rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 11:38 am
don’tsay fla, lex is so eat up with misinformation, he will never understand, good try though. your comment was good i thought. lex is , i guess, a maga cultist, that says volumes.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 9:42 am
Ìt is not terrorism to fight armed uniformed foreign military invaders of your homeland. Nug But Israel (and we) always want to call those we fight “terrorists.” It seems we only draw the line if they have tanks or fighter aircraft.
just sayin
December 13, 2023 at 10:19 am
“Your homeland”? Only after you drove out the Jews (and Christians and Druze and every other religion).
rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 10:42 am
just sayin, it seems you read a different set of history books than the ones i read.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 10:54 am
Yeah, the guy whose great-grandfather planted the olivè grove the family tended until the Israelis bulldozed it doesn’t “live” there, but the guy born in Warsaw does.
MH/Duuuval
December 13, 2023 at 11:36 am
Good point: Overlooked in the debate: the state of Israel/Palestine contains historic populations of Christians and Druze and perhaps others of which I am ignorant.
The Israeli government, police, and courts have worked in tandem to drive these folks off their lands and out of their homes.
MH/Duuuval
December 13, 2023 at 11:40 am
Bedouins are another such minority.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 10:04 am
The Israeli “offers” have always been Palestinian surrender, defeat, and near-colorial status. Of course they decline.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 11:04 am
Israel likes their warfare sterile, from cockpits with tremendous technical advantage and few casualties.
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That’s not urban infantry warfare. They are taking losses. Not a few are by “friendly fire.” This will soon wear on the Israeli piblic.
MH/Duuuval
December 13, 2023 at 11:39 am
Netanyahu was on his way out when Hamas unwisely launched its assault. Many Israelis appear to be be in favor of a compromise, but the hard-liners claim YWH gave it all to them some two or three millennia ago.
Dale A Arnold
December 13, 2023 at 11:05 am
Palestinians live in an open air prison!
How would anyone any American be happy living in an open air prison.. Some Americans didn’t even want to wear a mask!
Screaming about their freedoms! Trying living in an apartheid state!
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 11:08 am
Ì’m surprized I haven’t heard the familiar refrain from the MAGA morons. Nuke’em!
Impeach Biden
December 13, 2023 at 11:58 am
No, just your dumb azz making stupid statements.😜
rick whitaker
December 13, 2023 at 12:12 pm
my take, it is crazy to read what ” impeach biden ” said about your comment. to call you dumb and your statement stupid is dumb and stupid. i find your statements to be witty and intelligent. either me or ” impeach biden ” is wrong.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 12:49 pm
Conservstism maybe is some brain disease.
A prion maybe.
Dont Say FLA
December 13, 2023 at 11:24 am
Israel has been complaining about “rock throwing Palestinians” for as long as I can remember. Israel has also been shooting “rock throwing Palestinians” for as long as I can remember. Gaza was finally out of rocks to throw, so what does Israel do? Plentifully refresh the supply of rocks to throw such that conflict may continue indefinitely.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 12:46 pm
Lots of loose bricks now too.
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 1:04 pm
I wonder, do the Likudist lickspittals here consider the West Bank and Gaza to be Palestine–dominated, or occupied, or colonized or not–or “disputed territories”?
Richard Russell
December 13, 2023 at 5:43 pm
AGREE
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 9:51 pm
Imagine a President DregSSantis (ugh, I know).
Bank robbers are trapped in a bank by a large force of heavily armed law enforcement, including FBI.
The robbers have already killed the bank guardp. are some of the best hostage negotiators in the world, from FBI national HQ.
What does DregSSantis order ?
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“Attack !! Shoot your way in ! Hot lead ! Shoot every robber. Any hostages dead, that’s the robbers’ fault. Don’t worry about that. I’ll explain it.”
My Take
December 13, 2023 at 9:57 pm
The robbers have already killed the bank guard and manager and two first-arrival police. Just arrived outside are some of the best hostage negotiators in the world, from FBI national HQ.
What does DregSSantis order ?
My Take
December 14, 2023 at 5:50 pm
The GOP-MAGA dregs would happily empty an Uzi clip into a Palestinian bassinet, such is their deranged hatred. They would, of course, blame the Palèstiniàns and call it “defense.” Their only regret would be that it was not a double bassinet.
My Take
December 14, 2023 at 5:56 pm
DEFEND YOURSELF !
Slaughter Their Children
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My Take
December 14, 2023 at 6:53 pm
Sevrral news items over the past week or two have claimed that Hamas’s top leader(s?) feel thèir attack has been pretty successfùl !!
What on earth are they basing this on?
It is believable because Israel’s bombing response was predictable (though perhaps not the total invasion).
Stop the normalization of recognition taĺks?
What else could be so major?
What ģood has it accòmplished Hamas?
Getting rid of failed Naziyahoo would be good for all of us.
MH/Duuuval
December 14, 2023 at 10:59 pm
Nihilism is the short answer. And, the possibility that 72 virgins await your arrive in the great beyond.
michael Roberts
December 14, 2023 at 7:51 pm
funny typos….schooled in floriduh ??
MH/Duuuval
December 14, 2023 at 8:05 pm
Israeli Air Force “smart” bombs and munitions = 55% (NBC TV)
“Nearly half of the air-to-ground munitions that Israel has used in Gaza in its war with Hamas since October 7 have been unguided, otherwise known as “dumb bombs,” according to a new US intelligence assessment.” CNN
My Take
December 14, 2023 at 9:46 pm
Misguided MAGA … dumb bums
My Take
December 15, 2023 at 3:43 am
The Nazionists of the far right wing in Israel are actively còmmiting murderous viòlence against Palestinians on the West Bank.
Some commenters see it as an attempt to provoke a more general war against
the Arabs. To then expel them and sieze their land. Some of the Nazionists speak of it openly.
My Take
December 15, 2023 at 5:19 am
JUST like the Nazi march in Cicero
Times of Israel
Far-right-groups-plan-march-through-jerusalem-old-citys-muslim-quarter
My Take
December 15, 2023 at 2:59 pm
Ìsraeli troops accidentally kill three hostages.
I wonder whose fault that is in Runty’s mangled mind?
My Take
December 16, 2023 at 4:13 am
When your tactic is to shoot anything that moves or anyone you even see,, these things happen.
Michael roberts
December 15, 2023 at 3:34 pm
the Israelis are proficient in killing innocent people really good at killing children and bombing refugee camps and hospitals.
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