Donald Trump says he’s been indicted on charges of mishandling classified documents

22 comments

Michael K
June 8, 2023 at 8:47 pm

It’s about time.
Florida Man2
June 8, 2023 at 9:01 pm

It comes down to this. Are we a country based on laws or a country based on politicians/personalities? If its the former, Trump should be tried and if guilty, convicted. If the later, then we are basically electing kings who can do whatever they want while in/out of office.
- PeterH
  June 8, 2023 at 9:06 pm
  
  Georgia is up next! Lock him up or fine him the amount to complete the investigation and search for the documents. Such a man child!
PeterH
June 8, 2023 at 9:03 pm

No surprise. The 7 charges are significant and Trump’s Mar A Largo workers celebrated on the news!
Earl Pitts American
June 8, 2023 at 9:15 pm

Good evening America
The left hates Trump BUT they really hope to run against him again. They are afarid of Desantis though.
I’m sorry for any trama my true words of pure “D” solid gold wisdom are causing the dook 4 brains leftist readership here at our beloved online host F. P.
But knowing is 1/2 the battle if you are ever going to overcome your leftist handicap and rise to the glorious hights of a man like me, Earl Pitts American.
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- Hunter Biden
  June 9, 2023 at 6:17 am
  
  Hi friend,
  
  I’m here to eat your sammich and use your toilet.
  
  Thanks!
- Dont Say FLA
  June 9, 2023 at 8:13 am
  
  Howdy Earl! This is Ron’s make or break moment. If this actually breaks Trump, will MAGA folks want the runner-up in the ugly contest, or will the GOP hit the reset button and take this opportunity to cast out their witches?
  
  Marjorie Taylor Green recently dumped the Q-MAGAness. Will others follow her lead, dumping Donald and Ronald?
  
  We shall see! It’ll be interesting, for sure.
Michael K
June 9, 2023 at 2:25 am

It’s very rich to hear DeSantis bemoan “weaponization of the Justice department.” Those are the very tactics he has been using. His preemptive promise of a pardon without knowing all the facts or allowing due process should be worrisome. It suggests that certain people like himself are indeed above the law.
- Dont Say FLA
  June 9, 2023 at 8:00 am
  
  Rhonda is the guy who had his government issue voter registrations to some folks who were ineligible due to recent confusing changes in electoral laws, and then had his government arrest those people when they went and voted. Rhonda is definitely not one to talk about abuse of power.
Concentration Camps For Christians
June 9, 2023 at 4:25 am

The Great Christian Pogroms are underway and finally we can cleanse the Earth of the Christian Cancer.

Build more jails, they will be the majority at last once more, in prison.

Lock em up, lock em ALL up.
Theresa
June 9, 2023 at 7:13 am

This crap what they are doing to our President T is Bull and bogus!
- Dont Say FLA
  June 9, 2023 at 8:06 am
  
  Theresa, “they,” specifically, are a grand jury of Miami area residents who got called for jury duty.
  
  If you or I live in the Miami area, “they” could have included you, “They” could have included me.
  
  So the word you’re looking for, rather than “they,” is “we,” as in “We the people.”
  
  Regular folks were presented with allegations for evaluation. Regular folks said “yes, that mess is convincing enough for us to say it should be charged and go to trial.”
  
  Marjorie Taylor Greene already figured it out. When will the others catch up with her? Never thought I would say MTG was the bright one in any crowd, but here we are.
- Bwj
  June 9, 2023 at 6:56 pm
  
  No one is above the law. He will get the chance to prove his innocence.
Richard Bruce
June 9, 2023 at 9:30 am

No one knows what was said in the Grand Jury. If the Prosecutor told the Grand Jury that Pres. Trump mishandled classified documents and material and shows the jury items marked with various classifications, then the Jury will be right to support charges.

Problem is that any President has the absolute right to declassify any document or material at will without cause. Markings or labels do not make an item classified. Writing “Top Secret” on my shopping list does not make it classified. If Pres Trump declassified items, then all charges must be dropped. Cannot mishandle items that are not classified. Cannot obstruct an investigation if there should be no investigation.

Vice Presidents and Sec of States have delegated power to declassify, not original power. They must follow an established process.

I ran a SCIF many years ago. I know how to handle highest levels of sensitive information.
- Dont Say FLA
  June 9, 2023 at 9:59 am
  
  Problem is that any President has the absolute right to declassify any document or material at will without cause, but he can’t do it without process. You can read all about it at the American Bar website whose url is not allow to be posted here, it seems, but its a very easy DuckDuckGo to get to their fact check.
  
  Given 7 indictments, Trump seems not to have done the process, therefore classified documents were not declassified. Trump wishes and also claims he could crinkle his nose and magically declassify documents with his mind, but he can’t.
  
  Now that we all know this, we can stop posting the half-story that’s already been fact checked by numerous organizations as missing the critical process of declassification.
  - Richard Bruce
    June 9, 2023 at 12:07 pm
    
    There is nothing in the ABA Fact Checking statement that denies any President can declassify any document or material at will, except for some nuclear weapons information. No public evidence that Pres. Trump mishandling sensitive nuclear weapons data. ABA cites a EO from Pres. Obama. Pres. Trump doesn’t have to follow another President’s EO. Yes, there are declassification procedures for everyone must follow, but these do not apply to any President. There may be a case against those working for Pres. Trump who may have improperly handling subject documents/material. They must have written delegatory authority.
    
    The Supreme Court in the case Department of the Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518 (1988) states, “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.” U.S.Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.”
    
    In other words, Congress cannot control explicit Constitutional powers of the President as the Commander-in-Chief. Remedy of abuse is impeachment.
    - Dont Say FLA
      June 10, 2023 at 10:57 am
      
      Thanks for that about Congress and impeachment, but this is the DOJ and a private citizen committing crimes in 2022 and 2023 as a private citizen. Trump even confessed on tape. The case sounds like a slam dunk. Probably only Florida Governor Ron DeSantis can save Trump now for the crimes allegedly committed by Trump in Florida as a private citizen. But Ron won’t be doing that, will he. Nope.
  - Richard Bruce
    June 9, 2023 at 2:19 pm
    
    Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.” U.S.Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.
    - Dont Say FLA
      June 10, 2023 at 10:59 am
      
      Again nobody says Trump couldn’t have declassified documents when he was President. It’s just that he didn’t declassify them. And then as a private citizen he worked hard at concealing his possession of classified documents. Read the 45 page indictment of #45. Nothing you’re saying has anything to do with it.
Nuclear Secrets
June 9, 2023 at 5:15 pm

Trump had nuclear secrets at Maga Lardo. Wonderful. And now we all know what he was giving the Saudis for the golf deal that got Trump courses back into the PGA tournaments. Let’s hope he did not get the chance to give those documents to the Saudis, but since the deal went thru, one can infer the documents did too.
PeterH
June 9, 2023 at 6:44 pm

….. and just think….there are two more indictments waiting in the wings.

Today’s CHARGING DOCUMENT
Ron DeSantis made the following statement last night when it became known that Trump would be indicted for what Trump calls, THE BOX INVESTIGATION;

“The weaponization of federal law enforcement represents a mortal threat to a free society,” DeSantis tweeted. “We have for years witnessed an uneven application of the law depending upon political affiliation. Why so zealous in pursuing Trump yet so passive about Hillary Clinton or Hunter Biden?”

Jumping to conclusions before the full facts are known is a hallmark of DeSantis failed leadership.

In order to squelch the ongoing Republican conspiracy theories….. the US Justice Department rightfully issued the 50 page CHARGES DOCUMENT ahead of Tuesday’s arrest of Donald Trump. Every American should read and understand this indictment……and think for a minute about the foreign intelligence agencies that today feel betrayed by the exposure of classified documents stored in the very public areas of the Mar A Lago ballroom, bathroom and shower.

DeSantis cannot be trusted to govern and Donald Trump should withdraw his nomination.

Republicans are Americas biggest threat and problem.
Vote all Republicans out of office.
Drive the Clown Car off a Cliff
June 10, 2023 at 11:01 am

RONALD desantis
mitch MC connell
trump, DONALD j

Put the Burger King in with them. He’s as creepy as those three.