A.G. Gancarski
A new national poll shows that the apparent winner of the second Republican presidential debate was not Ron DeSantis — and was not, in fact, on stage in Simi Valley, California.
The Morning Consult survey shows the Florida Governor dropping from 15% to 12% in Thursday’s numbers, while the former President, who has yet to debate the other candidates, has surged above 60%.
“63% of potential Republican primary voters support Donald Trump for the GOP’s 2024 presidential nomination, up from 58% in our survey released Monday ahead of the latest primary debate,” Morning Consult noted.
DeSantis is still in second place, meanwhile, even as there seems to be jockeying for third place behind him. Vivek Ramaswamy is at 7%, down 2 points from before the debate. Mike Pence, at 6%, gained a point from before the debate. And Nikki Haley is now at 5%, having lost 2 points since Wednesday’s event.
Meanwhile, there is some evidence that the second debate lacked the novelty of the previous. “The sizable shift from Monday to Thursday is notable compared with what happened after the first Republican debate in August, when the Thursday survey found no significant change in the GOP electorate’s views,” the polling outfit noted.
Former President Trump was in Michigan Wednesday night, of course, and this poll result seems to suggest that dodging debates isn’t hurting him with voters. It also seems to be a data point against DeSantis’ latest attempts to goad the former President into a one-on-one debate.
“Since the former President didn’t come here, maybe he would be willing to do one with you and I,” DeSantis told Sean Hannity. “I think he owes it to our voters to come and make the case.”
Down 51 points in a national poll, however, it’s hard to make the case that Trump and DeSantis have parity. On the Democratic side of the aisle, President Joe Biden is refusing to debate his Primary challengers.
11 comments
Rick Whitaker
September 29, 2023 at 3:21 pm
not any of the maga candidates are fit to be president. so all the polls and jockeying for position, is a moot point. i hope they all step in each others poop. it makes me feel good to be a civil democrat.
PeterH
September 29, 2023 at 3:44 pm
Per the Washington Post:
After the perceived poor performance at the Wednesday debate, monied Republican kingmakers are meeting at a Virginia retreat next month to draft a more appealing klown to jump on the 2024 Republican Klown Kar. The current crop of Klown Kar Candidates are just not meeting stringent expectations!
Linwood Wright
September 29, 2023 at 3:52 pm
The rest of the country are finally really getting to see how much of creep this guy is.
Terri Gottberg
September 29, 2023 at 4:47 pm
Face it. Criminal defendant Trump will be the Republican nominee and face off against President Joe Biden. It’s pathetic that the majority of the Republican Party have all joined the Trump cult and are willing to give up on our Constitution and rule of law. That is the end result. Republicans are perfectly willing to usher in a criminal defendant facing 91 felony counts to be the first dictator as President of the United States of America. It feels like 1939 Germany is repeating itself.
There is only one Party that still believes in the Constitution, rule of law and our democratic republic. The Democrat Party. The only way to save America, our Constitution and rule of law is for every one to vote and vote Democrat up and down the ballot in every election for the foreseeable future until we demolish this fascist movement that is trying to overtake our country.
Michael K
September 29, 2023 at 5:13 pm
What else can one expect of a party with no platform and no values, except hate, division, and servitude to billionaires?
Ron wrecked Florida with hateful anti-woke nonsense, which the rest of the nation is soundly rejecting… instead favoring a twice-impeached, indicted election denier and insurrectionist.
Rhonda is going to be in a very foul mood when they return to Florida in a vengeful funk of anger, shame and humiliation.
My Take
September 29, 2023 at 7:53 pm
Rhonda is going to be in a very foul mood when they return to Florida in a vengeful funk of anger, shame and humiliation.
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And us laughing at them . . . derisively.
Walter
September 29, 2023 at 9:41 pm
At least there’s a bright side…
Walter
September 29, 2023 at 9:38 pm
I’ve thought about that. I don’t think it’s going to be pretty. God knows what additional havoc he will wreak in 2 years.
Walter
September 29, 2023 at 9:33 pm
Is Herschel Walker available?
Mary Pezzi
September 30, 2023 at 4:00 pm
The New York Post poll, the day after the second GOP debate has DeSantis at 10% to Trump’s 59%. And don’t want him to become POTUS, but we also don’t want him to be the Gov. of Florida!
Rick Whitaker
September 30, 2023 at 8:53 pm
when desantis gets through running for president, then his campaign will be looked at for irregularities. that should be interesting if not criminal. that would be one scenario that would get him off florida’s back. i can think of other scenarios too. let’s hope
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