A.G. Gancarski
Ron DeSantis is speaking out about a shooting at an Iowa high school, and he isn’t blaming the guns, but the ideology driving murderer Dylan Butler.
“This was somebody who was really hopped up on this gender ideology and you saw it in the profile, you know, the media doesn’t want to talk a lot about that because it doesn’t fit their narrative,” DeSantis said in Dubuque on Saturday.
Yahoo! notes that the shooter’s social media account featured “rainbow and transgender flag emojis and an image of graffiti that says ‘LOVE YOUR TRANS KIDS.'”
DeSantis also noted First Lady Casey DeSantis’ work on mental health issue in Florida, but bemoaned the left wing trying to weaponize psychological care.
“Unfortunately, what you find through all this is like, I mean, the left will use some of this mental health stuff to advance the woke agenda. That’s a dead end. OK. When you’re talking about people that need help, you want that to be on the up and up,” DeSantis said.
During Saturday’s remarks, DeSantis also lauded “institutionalization” as a solution to crime, a position he’s taken before, relating the murder in Iowa to crime on “the streets of San Francisco.”
DeSantis also waxed nostalgic about people who toted guns to school in the middle of the last century.
“Back in like the forties and fifties, kids used to go to school and bring a rifle. I mean, yeah, I mean, like they would do that. And so, you know, it’s like you didn’t have this happening then when literally they’re bringing this to school. So what has happened since then?”
DeSantis blames “social media and mass media.”
“People know if they commit one of these horrible things, they’re going to be famous, they’re going to be put on TV, they’re going to have, they can put a manifesto on social media and all this stuff. And so it’s created, I think a really nasty set of incentives for people that want to kind of go out in a blaze of glory that you wouldn’t probably have, you know, you know, 50-60 years ago.”
52 comments
Abram Nicholson
January 6, 2024 at 11:41 am
In short, he did what he did as a direct result of what DeSantis and his intolerant, right wing and Christian Nationalist supporters are doing to America.
1
January 6, 2024 at 11:58 am
– Correct. As usual, DeSantis continues to just talk out of his a*s. No, kids did not bring handguns or rifles to school in the 40’s & 50’s. What a jacka*s. Pardon the language.
Tim Behmer
January 8, 2024 at 6:52 am
So if I don’t agree with you. You have the right to kill me? Who’s the Nazi?
Tim Behmer
January 8, 2024 at 6:55 am
Wrong. Depending on what hunting season was in. There could be rifles, shotguns, or even archery equipment in trucks at my highschool in the 80’s. Don’t speak about that which you do not know.
Russ
January 8, 2024 at 10:28 pm
Can’t fix stupid…yes, they did indeed bring rifles to school in the 50’s. Do a web search before posting.
Dont Say FLA
January 9, 2024 at 10:24 am
Never Bend Over Super PAC putting up fake history websites supporting Rhonda’s historical assertions don’t make them true.
Same as “I saw it on The Rifleman on my antenna TV” also don’t make them true.
Earl Pitts "Sage Keep Kids Safe Advisor" American
January 6, 2024 at 12:44 pm
You are correct Abe,
The school system filled that already sensitive kid’s mind up with all their grooming gender nonsense rather than helping an obviously troubled confused and possably “bullied” kid who was screaming out for help from the school system for years. Insted of helping the kid the groomers lit the fuze that resulted in all this killing.
So join me, Honest Abe and America, in looking forward to the traumatized kids family sueing the school system for inflicting their crule and unusual peverse grooming which caused these senseless killings.
Thanks Honest Abe I’m giving you a free lifetime membership to The Earl Pitts American Fan Club as I am aware you need support in becoming a “Sage American Patriot”.
Earl Pitts Anerican
Russ
January 8, 2024 at 10:26 pm
“answer a fool and he will hate you” but I’ll try…so we must tolerate every immoral and degenerate belief or we are to blame when the mentally ill kid shoots people. There is truth and if I claim to be a teapot and someone tells me I’m not, they’re not to blame for my dysphoria.
Dont Say FLA
January 9, 2024 at 10:30 am
That is a two way street Russ. If somebody claims female people are immoral and degenerate if they don’t obey their man (or if they’re over 13yo but lack a man), female people are not to blame for the dysphoria displayed by the folks sitting around waiting for rapture, pointing fingers to keep themselves busy while they wait.
David Rothmann
January 9, 2024 at 5:53 pm
Sad, and sick, that you would try to blame the actual ideologies that can set sad and sick individuals like the shooter, and you, free.
Michael K
January 6, 2024 at 11:45 am
Chief Justice Justice Warren Burger warned us what was happening when the 2nd Amendment was perverted so that gun manufacturers would profit through increased sales. No one has more blood on his hands than the disgraced head of the NRA, aided and abetted by the Republican party to flood this nation with guns and weapons of war. The organization long ago abandoned its mission of gun safety in favor of money laundering for politicians.
No other first-world nation on the planet has this problem. Ron will blame anyone and anything rather than tackle the root cause of our gun violence problem: Too many guns, unfettered access, and glorification worship of guns.
Jerrera
January 7, 2024 at 12:49 pm
You’re an idiot! The stupid crazy people pull the trigger! Can’t blame the gun only the dumb owner. God forbid we protect ourselves from crazy people. Transgender people have something wrong with their brain and HE used a gun to kill. Only can blame the idiot so you must be an idiot too!
SteveHC
January 7, 2024 at 1:32 pm
*You* are the “idiot”, dude. You really think that being transgender causes some sort of brain disease that results in people becoming homicidal? That’s moronic thinking. Please leave this sort of stuff to doctors, because for you just a little “knowledge” is clearly *very* dangerous.
Russ
January 8, 2024 at 10:32 pm
Don’t call someone an idiot and have no facts. Trans kids make up a very small %, yet there was the Nashville shooter and now this. Those 2 alone would start to raise red flags. Of course kids with mental disorders like gender dysphoria are going to be prone to mentally unstable behavior. Not a big leap.
Dont Say FLA
January 9, 2024 at 10:32 am
Russ Russ Russ, NewsMax telling you every active shooter was a trans person, that don’t make it true. That’s a narrative from the right wing that attempts to distract from the actual fact that every active shooter had a gun and used it.
Ocean Joe
January 6, 2024 at 12:00 pm
Report I saw said fellow students claimed he was bullied for years.
Desantis has made bullying trans folk state policy.
Somehow it’s never about the easy access to guns (another state policy).
Ron Forrest Ron
January 6, 2024 at 12:40 pm
Rhonda, too, was bullied for years. By appearances, he is still bullied today.
The only question is if the bully is Casey, one or both of the kids, or “all of the above.”
You’d think he would display some empathy for a bullied type of kid, being one himself. Evidently Rhonda has no capacity to feel empathy.
Dont Say FLA
January 6, 2024 at 12:01 pm
Gender ideology means “ideas” and those ideas are pushed onto children by parents, churches, schools, etc.
Some children find those ideas pushed upon them don’t actually fit them. Perhaps the parents pushing their ideas of gender onto their children are the ones who are “hopped up on gender ideology” and should “get over it.”
But, as usual, here we are again: “Conservatives” don’t like change, so they blame the change for any issues stemming from their own resistance to change.
Russ
January 8, 2024 at 10:34 pm
So dumb…go touch grass and see some nature
Dont Say FLA
January 9, 2024 at 10:35 am
Russ, please expound upon how my statement is stupid.
For clarity’s sake, here’s my statement again:
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“Conservatives” don’t like change, so they blame the change for any issues stemming from their own resistance to change.
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I’ll agree that what conservatives do is stupid, but calling them out for it? Not stupid.
MH/Duuuval
January 6, 2024 at 12:05 pm
“The Libs of TikTok account tweeted out lists of mass shooters, which included the Nashville shooter, and identified them all as trans or nonbinary, despite these claims either being disproven or unconfirmed by officials.” NBC News online
It’s telling that Trump Jr. and Elon Musk jumped on the same bandwagon, proceeding to muddy the water.
“Research widely shows that the majority of mass shootings are carried out by straight and cisgender men. However, a fixation on whether shooters identify as LGBTQ has become increasingly common among far-right figures.”
MAGAmites titillate to distract from reality and to stoke their own egos. Guns kill — not ideology. Idelogy is a rationalization, typically after the fact.
Mssrs. Smith and Wesson
January 6, 2024 at 4:26 pm
I will accept that the moment you show me a gun get up, load itself, aim itself, and pull its own trigger. You never will. Because you cannot except that the fault in America lies with the people themselves and not their machines, you are condemned forever to watch the destruction of this civilization without knowing why it is happening.
MH/Duuuval
January 6, 2024 at 8:30 pm
Some would argue that the mass, unregulated arming of the citizenry is one important factor in our decline.
Half of guns associated with crime are stolen, primarily from autos; presumably these are the responsible owners you posit.
Half of guns confiscated in the last five years are ghost guns, which MAGAmites have made no attempt to regulate because they fear being primaried.
Fully half of firearms illicitly going to volatile areas of Latin America — where so many working people are being forced to flee — come from the US, especially Houston and to a much lesser degree Miami.
So, while you personally may be a responsible owner ever — and I know others who are — by refusing to address the obvious problems (weapons of war, huge magazines, ghost guns, etc.) Second Amendment absolutists DO jeopardize the nation’s future.
Dont Say FLA
January 7, 2024 at 9:46 am
While a gun can’t fire itself, a human can’t fire a gun they don’t have.
Corollaries and contraries make for fun internet arguments, dont’ they!
All nations have “people,” but only the nations having “people with guns” have regular mass shootings.
What’s the difference between the two nations of peoples? One Nation Under God that has mass shootings regularly and the other nation where any shooting, singular or mass, is an extreme rarity? (Hint: It’s not the people)
If there were any nations of guns but no people, they, same as the nations of peoples with no guns, would not endure regular mass shootings.
So is it the people or the guns? No. It’s people WITH guns. If you got to get rid of one, the people or the guns, which do you choose? (Hint: guns can’t buy anything. Choose people and find something else you can sell to them)
Russ
January 8, 2024 at 10:39 pm
What if the Jews had a cache of guns for each family? The Holocaust probably doesn’t happen. Suddenly your fool proof argument isn’t so good.
Remember, governments kill millions, while the people kill thousands.
Dont Say FLA
January 9, 2024 at 10:42 am
Russ Russ Russ, the point you’re making is the same point I constantly hit at: The first thing on a newly installed dictator’s agenda is collecting all the guns from everybody.
Can we infer you’re not a Trump voter? ‘Cause he gonna collect all the guns from EVERYBODY, including his MAGGAs including ProudBoys including PatriotFront and including the UHaul dipstick in Coeur D’Alene and including everybody else that acted on his behalf.
Why? Why would Trump confiscate guns from the people who acted on his behalf? Because the “acted” part is the only part that matters to the new dictators.
Maybe you [some generic gun owner] helped Trump with your actions with your gun, but what’s important after Day One is that maybe you’ll change your mind if you ever find out you been had.
If you do find out you been had, he won’t want you still armed, now will he. Nope!
Stacey Dee Maxwell
January 7, 2024 at 10:53 am
You’re absolutely right! Which is why regulations are placed upon the PEOPLE buying the guns. That’s right people maim, and kill others including themselves, members of their families, loved ones, as well as targeted and random human beings. It is not possible to do a background check on a gun, no a gun isn’t itself subject to emotional outbursts and mental health problems, no a gun can’t lock itself up so that it can’t fit accidentally…. Nope a gun can’t do that.
As with all rights, they come with responsibilities. Right to free speech but you can’t tell fire in a crowd. Right to Vote unless you have committed certain crimes, the right to protest the governments actions but not to commit violence while protesting…. The right to own and drive a car but not while drunk or down a one way street, or to use your car as a weapon. You say driving a car is a privilege? Yea, no! 9th Amendment. The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. We certainly have the right to transportation!
So, you’re absolutely right that to regulate the weapon itself is ludicrous, thats way regulation is designed to address the uniquely human responsibilities that keep my right from being your problem.
SteveHC
January 7, 2024 at 1:36 pm
The “cisgender MAGAmites” you refer to are *very* dangerous pig-headed morons. They should be the *last* ones to be allowed to own a gun.
Tim Behmer
January 8, 2024 at 7:00 am
Don’t call me cis and I won’t call you tranny.
JD
January 6, 2024 at 12:20 pm
50-60 years ago was the 1960s-70s, not this 1940s-50s they people perceive.
Shit in the 60s and 70s were pretty dynamic and sometimes rough. Funny thing is, DeSantis isn’t that old (and don’t give us any of the “he’s a history major” crap – he wasn’t there).
PeterH
January 6, 2024 at 12:25 pm
DeSantis is not a psychiatrist, DeSantis is not a doctor, DeSantis is not an epidemiologist! The drumbeat of the DeSantis narrative as it relates to transgender Americans, a woman’s choice to manage her own healthcare, and COVID protocols are the reason why incompetent politicians need to stay clear of social and medical issues that they are not qualified to discuss.
TJC
January 6, 2024 at 12:55 pm
What an ugly little man our Governor can be.
Michael K
January 6, 2024 at 1:10 pm
The only one pushing “gender ideology” is DeSantis. His fixation is a desperate attempt to stoke the flames of bigotry and hate to peel off some of the ultra-MAGA votes of the trumpublican party.
Marvin M.
January 6, 2024 at 8:22 pm
His fixation on it makes me wonder if there isn’t something in his own past he has not come to terms with, and it could be pretty horrible.
He constantly uses words like “disgusting”, “putrid”, “nasty” when referring to anything from drag shows to transgender health care to the smell of marijuana.
The dude needs to be seeing a psychologist (possibly even a psychiatrist), not running for president of the United States.
MH/Duuuval
January 6, 2024 at 8:32 pm
Possibly Dee suffers from PTSD as he must have been scared sh*tless when he rotated to Fallujah while the Marines razed it.
Marvin M.
January 6, 2024 at 8:49 pm
Oh! Just remembered, also how he seems to have a fixation about bodily excretions, talking about defecation in San Francisco and then bringing the poop map to the debate with Newsom. Dude is not normal!
MH/Duuuval
January 6, 2024 at 8:57 pm
Or, it may have been the opiated hashish his buddies in Iraq turned him onto that engendered a psychological crisis and subsequent flashbacks..
Dont Say FLA
January 7, 2024 at 9:50 am
Rhonda’s face normally says he was beat up regularly as a child, with the bullies screaming “Why do you keep hitting yourself in the face, Rhonda” the whole time.
And occasionally his face, even after all the years of therapy his parents paid for, flashes the pains of having been the quietest boy scout, the scout that didn’t tell.
DM GRANT
January 6, 2024 at 4:06 pm
Being any of those initialed lbgtq persons is not normal behavior. God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Adam. Don’t push that trash on kids who are too young to formulate their own identity in their own body causing these mental health problems. ALSO armed citizens is what saved this country from British rule. Rome is burning while Nero fiddles in his own long gone mind.
MH/Duuuval
January 6, 2024 at 8:35 pm
Jesus didn’t hang out with the prominent Jews of his day; he hung out with the outsiders and working poor. No doubt JC wouldn’t have any qualms about consorting with those you scorn. (He also didn’t care much for the moneychangers, who are today’s arrogant rich.)
Dont Say FLA
January 7, 2024 at 9:55 am
Right you are, MHD!
o Jesus had long girl hair
o Jesus wore a dress
o Jesus wore Birkenstocks
o Jesus never married
o Jesus preferred wine over water
o Jesus exchanged friendship bracelets with people [made of thorns; it’s all they had back then], even giants
o Jesus turned a donkey into a Subaru just so He could drive a Subaru. [This miracle got edited out by King James. See the original text]
Ron Forrest Ron
January 7, 2024 at 9:59 am
Armed citizens is what saved this country from British rule? What, did the British all show up with knives to a gun fight?
The Atlantic Ocean combined with the French taking out the British Navy is what saved the USA from British rule.
Look it up. It’s in the book “Revelations,” chapter of “K-12 history class is just a bunch of patriotic hogwash”
MH/Duuuval
January 7, 2024 at 11:38 am
We also got some useful assistance from Dutch bankers.
But, on the ground, it was those Americans who showed up. (Many enslaved Africans, however, joined up with the Brits since they were offering freedom.)
WhatNow
January 7, 2024 at 1:41 pm
“God” didn’t “create” *anything*, nature and the laws of the universe did, and *that* is why “lgbtq” sexuality exists *all throughout nature* including human beings. THAT’s a biologically scientific fact, not an opinion of an ignoramus such as you appear to be based on your post.
Barbies world
January 6, 2024 at 5:01 pm
Someone qualified please provide psychological help to DeathSantis and KKKasey before one of their children shows signs of something they cons”abnormal “. These two have no professional qualifications to be suggesting why people behave as killers other than YOU have provided gun access. He really does live in la la land.
Steve Newcomer
January 6, 2024 at 11:17 pm
I never cease to be amazed by how many complete Imbeciles and Dregs of society have been created by the Democrat Communist Party along with their partners in the Legacy Media. I feel sorry for these people because they have ZERO clue of their IGNORANCE! They live in an imaginary world LITERALLY fabricated by the lies, disinformation, and propaganda of the Democrat Communist Left! Read the 45 Communist Goals from the 1958 book The Naked Communist. It will shock you!
My Take
January 7, 2024 at 5:26 am
Years ago on the Net comments like these would get the response:
“What color is the sky on your world?”
Dont Say FLA
January 7, 2024 at 10:06 am
I have I just read the 45 Communist goals from 1958.
They overlap very substantially with Trump’s platform, but claiming to do all of it in the name of making America great again.
MH/Duuuval
January 7, 2024 at 11:09 pm
Wham!
Dont Say FLA
January 9, 2024 at 10:44 am
I don’t want your freedom
I don’t want to play around
I don’t want nobody, baby
Part-time-love just brings me down
I don’t need your freedom
Girl, all I want right now is you
Do-do-do-doh
Oh, whoa, yeah
Do-do-do-do-do-doh
1
January 7, 2024 at 1:44 pm
Just ignore the idiot troll, folks.
Dont Say FLA
January 9, 2024 at 10:45 am
Ignore DeSantis? Everyone already is ignoring them. LOL
Florida State G0P is going to be SO SAD for the two more years of Rhonda that they self-inflicted. Two years of Rhonda’s raging and whining and everybody, even state G0P types, ignoring them.
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