President Donald Trump said Friday that he was considering “getting rid of” the Federal Emergency Management Agency, offering the latest sign of how he is weighing sweeping changes to the nation’s central organization for responding to disasters.
Speaking while on the first trip of his second term, Trump made the comment in North Carolina during a briefing on the monthslong recovery from Hurricane Helene.
“FEMA has been a very big disappointment,” the Republican President said. “It’s very bureaucratic. And it’s very slow. Other than that, we’re very happy with them.”
Trump said Michael Whatley, Chair of the Republican National Committee, would help coordinate recovery efforts in the state, where frustrations over the storm continue to linger. Whatley is a North Carolina native but does not hold an official government position.
While Trump emphasized his desire to help North Carolina, a battleground state that’s voted for him in all of his presidential campaigns, he was much less generous toward California, where he plans to visit wildfire-ravaged Los Angeles later in the day.
Trump reiterated that he wants to extract concessions from the Democratic-led state in return for disaster assistance, including changes to water policies and requirements that voters need to show identification when casting ballots.
Beyond Trump’s criticisms of FEMA, he’s suggested a dramatic overhaul of the federal government’s role in responding to disasters.
“I’d like to see the states take care of disasters,” he said after landing in the Asheville area. “Let the state take care of the tornadoes and the hurricanes and all of the other things that happen.”
Trump said that would be quicker than sending in FEMA.
“FEMA just hasn’t done the job,” the President said. “We’re looking at the whole concept of FEMA.”
The agency helps respond to disasters when local leaders request a presidential emergency declaration, a signal that the damage is beyond the state’s ability to handle on its own. FEMA can reimburse governments for recovery efforts such as debris removal, and it gives stopgap financial assistance to individual residents. Some of Trump’s conservative allies have proposed reducing how much money the agency should provide.
Trump has criticized former President Joe Biden for his administration’s response to Hurricane Helene in North Carolina. As he left the White House on Friday morning, he told reporters that “it’s been a horrible thing the way that’s been allowed to fester” since the storm hit in September, and “we’re going to get it fixed up.”
After the briefing recovery efforts, Trump traveled to a small town outside Asheville to meet with residents who have been helped by Samaritan’s Purse, a humanitarian organization headed by evangelical leader Franklin Graham.
Once in California, Trump plans to tour the Pacific Palisades neighborhood, where rows of homes burned to the ground. He’s expected to receive a briefing on the fires, which are ongoing, with thousands of people under evacuation orders.
Trump has showered California leaders with disdain for water policies that he falsely claimed worsened the recent blazes. He said he would “take a look at a fire that could have been put out if they let the water flow, but they didn’t let the water flow.”
Members of Congress will be at the briefing, and the meeting could prove contentious. Trump has suggested using federal disaster assistance as a bargaining chip during unrelated legislative negotiations over government borrowing, or as leverage to persuade California to change its water policies.
“Playing politics with people’s livelihoods is unacceptable and a slap in the face to the Southern California wildfire victims and to our brave first responders,” said Rep. Young Kim, a Republican from Orange County, south of Los Angeles, in a recent statement.
Trump has a history of injecting politics and falsehoods into disaster response. During his first term, he talked about limiting help for Democratic states that didn’t support him, according to former administration officials. While running for President last year, he claimed without evidence that Democrats were “going out of their way to not help people in Republican areas” of the battleground state of North Carolina.
He’s also been focused on California water policies, specifically fish conservation efforts in the northern part of the state.
“I don’t think we should give California anything until they let the water run down,” Trump said Wednesday in an interview with Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity.
The President also suggested shifting more responsibility to individual states for managing disasters.
“I’d rather see the states take care of their own problems,” he told Hannity, adding that “FEMA is getting in the way of everything.”
Michael Coen, who served as Chief of Staff at FEMA during the Biden administration, said Trump was “misinformed” about an agency that provides critical help to states when they’re overwhelmed by catastrophe.
In addition, Coen criticized the idea of attaching strings to assistance.
“You’re going to pick winners and losers on which communities are going to be supported by the federal government,” he said. “I think the American people expect the federal government will be there for them on their worst day, no matter where they live.”
The last time Trump was President, he visited numerous disaster zones, including the aftermaths of hurricanes and tornadoes. He sometimes sparked criticism, like when he tossed paper towels to survivors of Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico.
“If you’re a disaster survivor, no matter who you voted for, it’s always good when the President comes to town,” said Pete Gaynor, who headed FEMA during the first Trump administration between 2019 and 2021. “You can see him and hopefully talk to him about what you need in your community.”
Laurie Carpenter, a 62-year-old retiree in Newland, North Carolina, said she’s looking forward to Trump’s visit because she’s been disappointed by the federal response. She said there’s still debris and trash strewn around her part of the state months after Hurricane Helene.
“If anybody’s going to do something about it, I think he will,” Carpenter said.
Trump tapped Cameron Hamilton, a former Navy SEAL with limited experience managing natural disasters, as FEMA’s acting Director. He also said individual states should be in charge of directing response to natural disasters rather than FEMA, and that the federal government should only step in subsequently to provide funding.
Biden vowed before leaving office that the federal government would cover all the costs of responding to the wildfires around Los Angeles, which could end up being the costliest natural disasters in U.S. history. However, that promise won’t be kept unless Congress comes up with more funding.
Friday’s trip could prompt some uncomfortable conversations about climate change, which Trump has played down and denied. Both Hurricane Helene and the Los Angeles wildfires were exacerbated by global warming.
In Helene’s case, a study by international climate scientists at World Weather Attribution found that climate change boosted the storm’s rainfall by 10%. In California, the state suffered a record dry fall and winter — its traditional wet season — which made the area around Los Angeles more vulnerable to blazes.
“This is just breaking our comfort zone of what is supposed to be normal,” said University of Oregon researcher Amanda Stasiewicz.
After visiting North Carolina and California, Trump plans to hold a rally Saturday in Las Vegas.
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Republished with permission of The Associated Press.
10 comments
TruthBTold
January 24, 2025 at 6:18 pm
DeGovernor has proposed this, cuts down huge swaths of bureaucratic overhead. Just award disaster relief to the states when a disaster hits, and have a small auditing division to make sure it’s spent on the disaster recover, not political priorities. Will save $40-50B per year.
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January 24, 2025 at 6:31 pm
Assumes the Feds give block grants to the states. Not a given. If you think about it, maybe disaster relief should be on a county level, or municipality level, or precinct level or individual level. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
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Childless Cat Lady
January 24, 2025 at 7:19 pm
If FEMA is disbanded on the Federal level it would seem justifiable that States impacted by natural or manmade disasters can reduce their State tax contributions to the Federal treasury.
tom palmer
January 24, 2025 at 8:13 pm
I think this may change as the politics plays out. Maybe FEMA could do a better job, but keep in mind that local officials respond to the initial emergency. FEMA comes in later with housing, supplies etc. They do reimburse local governments for debris removal and repairs of parks and other public facilities, but it takes quite a while to get the money so local officials can proceed on some of the repairs.
Victoria Olson
January 24, 2025 at 8:19 pm
Fascist Gov. DeSatan has taken Federal money that was earmarked for programs and used it for whatever but not what it was designated for. I don’t trust him. He will use that money for one of his egregious BS that is usually unconstitutional.
Peachy
January 25, 2025 at 5:51 am
Give us examples of this.
Andy
January 25, 2025 at 9:13 am
Yes, because the ‘State of F`lorida’ has done so well in comparison to the other 50 states in refining in insurance costs, accountability, and condo reform! We are screwed!
Andy
January 25, 2025 at 9:14 am
Yes Jimmy Patrois helped Florida, he amassed the largest campaign account for Congress, all from our highest insurance premiums in the nation!
Sundance
January 25, 2025 at 6:03 pm
Why is he touring the states it’s up to the states and the forced he can’t control