New poll shows Ron DeSantis losing to both Joe Biden, Kamala Harris
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Without Trump in the race, DeSantis is the GOP front-runner. But could he win it all?

New polling shows Gov. Ron DeSantis would lose the popular vote to either President Joe Biden or Vice President Kamala Harris if the Florida Governor squared off against either Democrat in 2024.

A Harvard/Harris Poll asked: “If the 2024 election for President were held today and it was between Ron DeSantis, the Republican, and Joe Biden, the Democrat, who would you vote for?”

Biden took a 43% share of respondents; DeSantis took 36%, with an additional 21% saying they were unsure. The Governor had 37% support against Harris, who had 42%. Again, 21% had not formed an opinion.

If Donald Trump weren’t running again, DeSantis would only be the nominee in this poll’s reckoning.

In a field including Trump, the former President commands 67% of the vote. DeSantis is a close third in this poll with 8% of the vote, one percentage point behind former Vice President Mike Pence.

Trump has discussed the potential of DeSantis running against him in recent days, telling a Florida radio audience that he wasn’t worried.

“If he wanted to run, that’s OK with me. I think we’d win by a lot,” Trump said.

In a field excluding the former President, DeSantis consolidates support in the hypothetical. The Governor drew support from 30% of respondents, five percentage points ahead of Pence.

The poll also measured the Governor’s net favorability, rating him as a +1, the second highest polling Republican. U.S. Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina was a +4.

DeSantis’ favorable rating of 32% put him between two leading Democrats: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer at 31%, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi at 35%. His unfavorable number of 31% was between that of two other leading Democrats: Sen. Joe Manchin at 33% and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema at 29%

The survey of 1,989 registered voters was conducted Nov. 30 to Dec. 2.

DeSantis continues to maintain he’s not interested in running for President, but he also continues to act like someone exploring a campaign, with frequent national travel and television hits.

A.G. Gancarski

A.G. Gancarski has written for since 2014. He is based in Northeast Florida. He can be reached at [email protected] or on Twitter: @AGGancarski


  • Alex

    December 10, 2021 at 12:17 pm

    So Biden’s relative unpopularity now does not translate into popularity for DeDumbass.


    • Suck it Alex

      December 10, 2021 at 2:09 pm

      Ron would have no problem with Pee Pee pads or VP Knee pads.

      • Tom

        December 10, 2021 at 9:40 pm

        Suck it Alex, you mean the Govs golf balls. Yes you can do so. LMAO.

      • Robert Hogner

        December 11, 2021 at 7:18 am

        He ran for governor on th etag line: Trump’s Pit Bull.” I am sure keen pads would be an improvement in the servant-master relationship.

    • Brandon

      December 10, 2021 at 8:47 pm

      It wouldn’t even be close. Desantis easily wins over Biden.


        December 12, 2021 at 9:12 am

        You are exactly correct. Nobody l know approves of what Biden is doing to our country.


      December 13, 2021 at 7:42 pm

      wooooops, Pres. Biden is more popular than you Know given the FACTS VS LIES!

  • Charles

    December 10, 2021 at 12:21 pm

    Everyone knows this poll is completely unreliable and severely skewed. It clearly does not reflect the current sentiment. There is a political bloodbath coming in 2022 and all the self serving and skewed polls won’t change the building momentum.

    • Alex

      December 10, 2021 at 12:27 pm

      “everybody knows” = what you want everyone to believe.

      • Robert Hogner

        December 11, 2021 at 7:20 am

        N”Everyone knows” is just shorthand for “peeple are sayin’.'” Oh that’s people!

        • Tom

          December 11, 2021 at 9:58 am

          Hardly, America’s Governor wipes floor with these two clown show artists. Laptop from Hell. Harris befuddled, POTUS confused.

          Welcome new Manchurian tom a ton Hogner. Another kiddie college intern. Amazing how you pathetic fools resort to low end insults.

          Why don’t you fools care about your southern border, instead of the Ukraine border. Clown show decreased 2 million barrels of domestic oil projection. Stopped pipeline and ok’d Russia/Germany European oil dependence. Idiocy run amok.
          40 yr high inflation but hey it’s ok, u can’t get a raise or if you do 7% inflation wipes you out.
          China, total sell out by Biden.
          Anything else you want to defend?
          Biden/Harris can’t stand each other and are clueless.
          He’s negative 13 in Florida, upside down in 40 states, including blue.
          Try owning up instead of insults.
          DeSantis sells golf balls for those of you who need to grow a pair. Governor Kahones, America’s Gov. Wins Nov 22, bigly!
          Govs mansion to WH.
          Go cry with Hillary.

    • Psf

      December 11, 2021 at 8:50 pm

      You are right. The Democrats will devour the Insurrectionists (The Republican Party)

      • Tom

        December 13, 2021 at 5:15 am

        Psd, No chance, but you are a idiot.
        With who, N Fraud? Crispy critters? Tarantula?
        U S House, 60 seat pick up, new majority.
        DeSantis 55% win.

  • Tom

    December 10, 2021 at 1:15 pm

    Excuse me, irregardless of what the poll may infer Gov Ron is on track for re election first.

    America’s Governor is not well known outside of Florida. The fact is, he is within 7 and 5 pts of both POTUS and VPOTUS speaks positively. 21% were undecided, very bad for them both of them. They are national names, he is not. Gov Ron is just getting known in national Repub. circles. He is not known nationally.

    America’s Governor is clearly the conscience and conservative leader of the party without Trump. With his coming re election, everything else will come together. His wife’s Casey’s recovery in health, former Pres Trump decision and ultimately his own decision for family, himself and country.

    Gov Ron has time. Tallahassee to the WH is very doable, even in a few years.

    America’s Governor is the best example for all Govs and states.

  • Tom

    December 10, 2021 at 1:47 pm

    Biden is negative 13 or greater in Florida, you bet your rear it does! It’s a shoe in for re elect.

    DeSantis is not known nationally, to be within 7 and 5 pts nationally with 2 household names is huge. He’d defeat either one.

    No problem.

  • Ron Ogden

    December 10, 2021 at 2:22 pm

    Biden and Harris are on national TV, usually with flattering comments, all the time, and DeSantis remains the governor of only one state and doesn’t get national airplay.. I think he did very darn well in those polls considering the reality of public exposure.

    • Robert Hogner

      December 11, 2021 at 7:32 am

      Actually, he does get national air play. His steady march in leading the Fascist Florida Brigade, the “Freedom First, Nothing Second foolishness, and his managing to achieve an excess 10,000 Covid deaths in Florida* in his quest for natural immunity, all these and nore most American’s are now well aware of. Sooner or later, the self-described “Trump’s pit bull.” will be chained up.

      • Robert Hogner

        December 11, 2021 at 7:37 am

        “Trump’s Pit Bull” Ron caused 10,000 ecesss Floridians to die by CoVid? (*) Comparing the USA states” deaths average rate per 100,000 with the same Florida figure, a simple average gubernatorial leadership figure would have resulted in 10,000 less deaths. The consequence of not following science and reality. Among some, charges of crimes against humanity are qarrented, as similar charges have already developed against Brazil’s leader.

        • Tom

          December 11, 2021 at 10:32 am

          Total Manchurian ignorance. Read above reply.
          You have no clue except Trump cheap shots. Meaningless as well.
          No one has suggested, even harshest critics he’s done so to 10,000.
          You are mentally ill.
          Florida, Gov Ron America’s Gov stands out as leader. Florida leads with seniors inoculated. Florida leads with monoclonal centers. Florida leads in saving seniors lives.
          Have you seen Michigan’s tyrant Governor. Michigan has adopted Florida/Gov Ron’s policy effort.
          You are clueless, typical liberal hater.

          America’s Governor! Leads.

  • Robert Shiner

    December 10, 2021 at 4:56 pm

    The most ridiculous thing I’ve read all day….obviously fake, made up poll….

  • Bob

    December 11, 2021 at 12:11 am


  • J.R.

    December 11, 2021 at 6:35 am

    You expect the people to believe that the two most unpopular people in politics would lead in the polls in 2024 to anyone, talk about corruption in Washington. Harris is the most unpopular VP in history and Biden is just as bad. No President has ever been below 35%. This is just the Democratic media trying to slander the Republicans.

    • Elizabeth

      December 11, 2021 at 9:23 pm

      This speaks volumes on how fed up we are with our insurrectionists, uh… republicans.

  • Diane H

    December 11, 2021 at 1:19 pm

    I will never vote for DeathSantis for anything.

    • Tom

      December 11, 2021 at 2:39 pm

      You probably didn’t vote for him anyway. Read Hillary’s speech and watch her cry. LMAO
      Liberals chops busted, watching great Gov and his beautiful family.
      Govs Mansion to W H.
      America’s Governor

      • Ocean Joe

        December 11, 2021 at 4:42 pm

        A lot of great comments, but nobody seems to have opened the link and viewed the survey data which has pretty good news for the rightwingers on here dismissing it. Take a look.
        As for Desantis, he IS nationally known, not just from Fox to the right wing, but to everyone who reads the Washington Post. He makes the front page constantly, problematic since he abandoned his first year as a moderate governor to become an extremist.
        As for Biden, he wont be running again, and Harris cant win the nomination, so it’s a pointless match up. I do recall Dick Cheney hovering around 17% popularity, and W being quite low at one point, so it’s hardly novel.
        And Tom, Desantis isnt going anywhere until Bloat steps out of the way, which is why you should actually support a thorough investigation into the mob he let loose on the capitol.

        • Tom

          December 13, 2021 at 5:26 am

          DeSantis isn’t running against 45, period full stop. It’s a waste of time.
          Romney, Ryan, Cruz, Hawkey, Graham, Haley, Sununu, any others is a waste of time. They will get crushed.

          It’s ignorant for Dems to suggest a 6 yr, elected official, who is completing his first term as Gov has a national following compared to a 50 yr veteran in Biden. Who has been on a national ticket 3x. Are you idiots serious? How stupid. My goodness.

          America’s Gov is barely known in the Repub. party nationally. The fact he is within 7 pts Biden and 5 pts of incompetent Harris speaks volumes.

          Govs mansion to WH is very possible.
          If Trump does not run, Gov Ron would be the favorite.

  • Biden sh*tshispants

    December 11, 2021 at 2:09 pm

    Biased polling, had to be taken in the heart of San Fran because that’s the only mentally ill part of this country to choose biden over Desantis. All of you liberal ftards are going to be hating life when there’s no mask mandate any longer and you have freedom again. Sincerely from the bottom of my heart you liberals mask virus fear mongering fuckfaces can go fuck yourselfs. Better off if you’re a statistic then a breathing pile of shit.

  • Ron

    December 11, 2021 at 10:34 pm

    Those two ladies must love what sleepy Joe is doing and bj harries, they are the first two assholes who ever stepped into the white house

  • Tracy Cooker

    December 13, 2021 at 4:44 pm

    What a laugh this is! Desantis is #1 and everyone knows it. Nobody wants Harris, nobody.

  • Chris

    December 14, 2021 at 9:09 am

    Funniest fake news story I’ve seen in a while. Dumb and Dumber are the most inept, laughable and pathetic duo we’ve seen in the White House in 50 years. As terrible as comatose Joe is, Americans would be totally mortified to have the Cackling Pantsuit as POTUS. The faux border czar is really an empty pantsuit. Desantis would destroy either one of these circus clowns.

  • Missy

    December 14, 2021 at 10:49 pm

    That is truly laughable! Gov DeSantis education and experience is heads & shoulders above either slow joe or kamala.
    FL Democrats are the only folks who do not love DeSantis. They hate anyone who gives an ounce of credit to even one of DJT’s policies. Sore losers.

  • LetsGoBrandon

    December 19, 2021 at 4:50 pm

    Undecideds are more likely to go to republicans due to republicans being more cautious than democrats about sharing their political views. Also, republicans are also less likely to respond to pollsters due to the large belief among conservative voters that the polls are fraudulent, ever since they saw Hillary Clinton’s humiliating loss to Donald Trump in 2016, which was told by the polls to be an easy win for Hillary, maybe even a landslide. The polls even overestimated in 2020, when they predicted Florida and North Carolina would go to Biden. But overall, the polls are usually right, 2016 and 2020 were outliners. Besides, polls are only done with around 750-1500 people, it will probably be a toss-up race.

    • Tom

      December 20, 2021 at 6:15 pm

      DeSantis, America’s Gov likely wins with 53%. If it’s Nikki Fraud, likely 55%. She will underperform badly.

      It will mean massive State House & Senate seat pick up. With Cong Murphy out, 3 new House seats GOP.
      Real bad night for Dems

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