Ron DeSantis rips Donald Trump supporters as ‘listless vessels’
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Trump DeSantis
'A movement can't be about the personality of one individual.'

Florida’s Governor is going on the offense against the former President — and his devoted supporters.

In an interview with the Florida StandardRon DeSantis is ripping Donald Trump backers as privileging personality over conservative purity.

“If all we are is listless vessels that are just supposed to follow, you know, whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning, that’s not going to be a durable movement,” DeSantis said.

The Governor also rejects claims that he and others who buck the cult of “personality” around the former President are “RINOs.”

“And so you could be the most conservative person since sliced bread. Unless you’re kissing his rear end, they will somehow call you a RINO. So it’s been totally detached from principle in what you actually believe and results. And it’s more about, you know, just what faction you happen to do,” DeSantis said.

The Governor continued to describe what he perceives as hypocrisy.

“There will be people who are huge Trump supporters like in Congress who have, like, incredibly liberal left-wing records that’s really just atrocious and yet they’re viewed by some of these folks as, like, really, really good. Then you have other people, you know, like a Congressman Chip Roy who’s endorsed me, Congressman Thomas Massie,” he said.

“These guys have records of principle, fighting the swamp that are second to none, and yet they will be attacked by some of these people and called RINOs.”

The Governor’s remarks prompted a quick response from Trump’s camp, in the form of a statement demanding DeSantis apologize.

“To Hillary Clinton, Trump supporters are ‘deplorables.’ To Ron DeSantis, they are ‘listless vessels.’ The truth is, Trump supporters are patriots,” said Karoline Leavitt, spokeswoman for Make America Great Again Inc.

“Ron DeSantis is showing his true colors. The pressure of polling in third place is getting to DeSantis and now he is lashing out at the very same voters who got him elected Governor. DeSantis must immediately apologize for his disgraceful insult.”

Others from the former President’s inner circle objected to the remarks, comparing the Governor to 2016 Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

“Looks like Ron DeSanctimonious just had his ‘Basket of Deplorables moment,” contended Jason Miller. “Not good!”

“DeSantis goes full-blown Hillary and calls MAGA supporters ‘Listless Vessels,’” Trump spox Steven Cheung added.

Meanwhile, DeSantis’ spox says the Governor’s comments were misinterpreted.

The dishonest media refuses to report the facts—Donald Trump and some congressional endorsers are ‘listless vessels.’ Why? Because Trump and DC insiders feel he is entitled to your vote. (DeSantis) believes your trust should be earned and has the vision, plan, and record to beat Joe Biden and reverse the decline of our country. That’s why Ron DeSantis will be showing up on Wednesday night to debate, and Donald Trump will not,” asserted Bryan Griffin.

Griffin, whose comments came hours after the story ran, did not say which “congressional endorsers” were “listless vessels” and which weren’t. Nor did he explain why Trump not debating has anything to do with said listless vessels.

DeSantis has said he’d have no problem getting Trumpers to back him in the General Election. Clearly though there are some he feels are beyond reach or reason.

“It’s just been totally detached from any type of substance. And ultimately, a movement can’t be about the personality of one individual. The movement has got to be about what are you trying to achieve on behalf of the American people,” DeSantis added.

DeSantis has been sniping at Trump in recent days ahead of the first GOP Primary debate of the cycle — a debate Trump has said he won’t be attending.

This week, DeSantis criticized Trump for attempting to upstage him during the Iowa State Fair.

“When I was at the Iowa State fair with (Gov.) Kim Reynolds, that’s when they did their counter program. I think he was on the ground for 45 or 50 minutes. I was the only candidate he cared about in Iowa. He came because I was there and he wanted to try to take some of the attention away from us,” DeSantis said.

Trump, meanwhile, hit DeSantis for his crowd size.

“He had a very small crowd. He only had a few people show up. It’s a big difference,” Trump said.

It appears the two won’t be trading barbs on the debate stage Wednesday night, however, as Trump has reportedly chosen not to attend the debate.

A.G. Gancarski

A.G. Gancarski has written for FloridaPolitics.com since 2014. He is based in Northeast Florida. He can be reached at [email protected] or on Twitter: @AGGancarski


125 comments

  • My Take

    August 19, 2023 at 12:33 pm

    Ein Volk Ein Reich, Ein Trump

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    • Merle

      August 20, 2023 at 3:19 am

      Bestimmt

    • Johnathan Galt

      August 20, 2023 at 9:13 am

      Adolph was a Democratic Socialist – same as our DNC, Cletus.

      • Silly Wabbit

        August 20, 2023 at 11:26 am

        You kwazy.

        • Kurt

          August 20, 2023 at 2:19 pm

          He’s factual, but you lefties wouldn’t know anything about facts.

      • Pred

        August 20, 2023 at 3:34 pm

        For God sake, read a history book.

        • Tom

          August 21, 2023 at 7:38 am

          It’s Florida – we don’t do history and we certainly don’t do books.

      • My Take

        August 20, 2023 at 11:26 pm

        Nothing at all democratic or socialist about him.
        Just àttractive words. Still fool fools.
        And I think it was Adolf

    • Joseph Bordin

      August 20, 2023 at 3:36 pm

      Ron just showed how out of touch he is. Trump is beloved for his actions. He’s the only politician in my lifetime to make promises and then follow through with actions. The only politician to push policies that benefit the people. A secure border, good paying jobs, wage increases, peace through strength, cheap gas, low inflation etc etc.

      The problem with Ron and 99% of the rest of Republicans is that they only care about corporate profits and globalist/Deep State bureaucracy interests. Ron is a RINO fraud, I truly wish it weren’t so but he is. He disgusts me…

      • My Take

        August 20, 2023 at 11:33 pm

        I kind of prefer that, for example, the people whose jobs are to protect me from contaminants in food and water know something aboùt contaminants and food and water. And not be stooges for business and Trump

    • Joe Cascone

      August 20, 2023 at 7:32 pm

      I don’t think anyone calls Vivek or Tim Scott RINOs.
      Ron, where are you getting your money? You were warned, unless you go RINO, the BIG money stops

    • Joseph l hardge

      August 21, 2023 at 2:28 am

      Yo God is good you know it or not Jesus Christ is walking to Earth he had me to State it as you recall you mess with the wrong one it’s 777 do you know those instructions this is revelation there will be storms in place u can’t even imagine I am him and he is I and he is we all of us who does his well mr trump god love you brother he bless those who does righteous we all learn from our own wrong s can the blind lead the blind no of course it’s take a person who can see I thank God Almighty the king of all King all across the nations Ive been given you’ll when I seen ur limousine government card the same one that you be riding in driven down western I have proof u know what to do .ps from whom had sont me from a place were it is planty of treasure

    • Salt1

      August 21, 2023 at 8:23 pm

      Your only problem is that you do not understand the USA. It’s founded on the principles of individual liberty regardless of race, religion, etc. you can try to paint Nazism on MAGA but it would just reveal your ignorance

  • My Take

    August 19, 2023 at 12:37 pm

    “The movement has got to be about what are you trying to achieve . . .”

    Fascism. Not the ugliest version, true, but fascism.

    • Eric

      August 19, 2023 at 3:09 pm

      Looking in the wrong direction with accusations of fascism. There is nothing fascistic about the MAGA movement, that at one time supported DeSantis. We look at policies not personalities. We see how DeSantis is controlled by the R donor class. Massie enabled the passing of that horrible override budget deal passed by majority Dems that screwed all of us.

      • Rob Desantos

        August 19, 2023 at 5:20 pm

        This is absolute BS Eric. The GQP and Trumpism have had literally no articulated platform since the Donald’s ascendance, and their goals are nothing less than total control of American life and culture.

        • ERic

          August 19, 2023 at 6:34 pm

          So, the GOP is trying to control American life and culture. The GOP? GOP has many faults, too many to enumerate, and I will not defend the GOP- But, policies of control? The GOP? Really? Compared to what? In absolute obliviousness to the control implemented by the LEFT. This is not a serious comment.

          • TJC

            August 20, 2023 at 11:40 am

            “…policies of control? The GOP? Really?”
            Yes, really.
            The GOP of late has been trying to control what books Americans can read, what teachers and professors can say in the classroom about Black History, and which citizens can vote. In Florida, the Republicans in Tallahassee, in cahoots with the Governor, have taken away local control from city and county governments in regard to education, the environment, and real estate development. They have also tried to control how privately owned companies can go about their business.
            The answer is yes, really.

        • Jack

          August 19, 2023 at 6:48 pm

          How can you say a fascist takeover is their goal right after accusing him of having “no articulated platform”?
          TDS much?

          • My Take

            August 19, 2023 at 9:40 pm

            TDS
            =====

            TRUMP DEIFICATION SYNDROME
            An ongoing epidemic.

        • andrew

          August 20, 2023 at 2:22 am

          That’s right . We are irredeemable and deplorable
          Get used to it,

        • Edo Tokyo

          August 20, 2023 at 8:57 am

          What planet do you live on? There would be no war in Ukraine if Trump were president. Everything the media and anti-Trumpers cried would occur under Trump didn’t happen but has happened under the cognitively impaired Joe Biden’s administration. The biggest question on everyone’s mind should be who is leading the country because it isn’t Joe. There is no elected official in charge. That is the biggest undermining of our democratic republic that could happen. It is the Democrats who crafted that through election interference with the CIA, FBI, DOJ, etc., with the propagandist media carrying all their water and social media running interference through censorship.

          • Silly Wabbit

            August 20, 2023 at 11:43 am

            You kwazy.

          • Bobby

            August 20, 2023 at 1:36 pm

            There would be no Ukraine war if I was president too! See how incredibly simple it is to say something that cant ever be falsified? Yawn….

          • My Take

            August 20, 2023 at 11:38 pm

            Yes, yes. DeepState is wide too.
            Give up.

          • Joseph Ballew

            August 25, 2023 at 7:26 am

            Amen

        • Johnathan Galt

          August 20, 2023 at 9:15 am

          Fascist projection there, Comrade.

          • Silly Wabbit

            August 20, 2023 at 11:43 am

            You stewpid.

        • Pelosi's Hammer

          August 20, 2023 at 9:45 am

          Another Biden puffer. The dims are in control at the moment and driving the US off a cliff. Biden is compromised by our enemies China and Russia (Russia via Ukraine – just trying to protect his tax $$ laundering enterprise). The entire government is corrupt, top to bottom.

          • My Take

            August 20, 2023 at 11:42 pm

            It’s all over. Surrender.

        • sturmudgeon

          August 20, 2023 at 4:49 pm

          “‘A movement can’t be about the personality of one individual.'”
          The MAGA ‘movement is not about the “personality of one individual”, Ronnie boy… It is about the Positive Policies desired by the People, and articulated by that Individual. Get your Premise straight.

      • My Take

        August 20, 2023 at 12:22 am

        MAGA LEADERS are fascistc or actve enablers of such. The average dreg follower very possibly not. Voters AS pols vs.voters FOR pols.

        • Johnathan Galt

          August 20, 2023 at 9:15 am

          That’s some Fascist projection there, Comrade.

      • Penny

        August 20, 2023 at 8:22 am

        DeSantis is not controlled by the donor class. And his comment was true about listless vessels, referring to those who will follow Trump even if he doesn’t win the primary. Some followers even claim that they will write him in. This is completely contrary to what all Republicans should be doing. We must win in 2024, no matter who the GOP candidate is.

        • Edo Tokyo

          August 20, 2023 at 9:04 am

          I disagree. The establishment of the Republican Party is just a different way of spelling Democrat. They stand for self-interest & self-empowerment, not that which benefits the people or the country. Ukraine conflict is a joke and should have been avoided but politicians on both sides are supporting it and are gleefully sending billions of dollars over there without any accountability.

        • T

          August 20, 2023 at 9:52 am

          Tell that to the same RINO’s in the donor class that voted for Biden and Hillary rather than Trump. Ron screwed up big time listening to the UniParty advisors and running in 2024. I will no longer follow those that told me to hold my nose and vote for McCain, Romney, Ryan, etc and keep McConnell propped up and worked underhandedly to keep Murkowski in office i.e. the controlled opposition wing of the UniParty.

          Wake up the GOP/RNC is not on our side.

        • Kurt

          August 20, 2023 at 2:22 pm

          True!

      • Edo Tokyo

        August 20, 2023 at 8:46 am

        That’s what so many people don’t get: it’s not about Trump but he is the originator of MAGA. The establishment hates him and that means a lot to people who are paying attention.

        • Pelosi's Hammer

          August 20, 2023 at 9:47 am

          Yeah, they hate Trump but fear the number of Trump supporters. Most of Biden’s 81,000,000 don’t exist.

      • Salt1

        August 21, 2023 at 8:27 pm

        💯correct

        Thanks

    • Johnathan Galt

      August 20, 2023 at 9:14 am

      Yes, Fascism is the ultimate goal of Demunists. They are well on their way.

    • Pelosi's Hammer

      August 20, 2023 at 9:41 am

      Clueless Biden puffer.

      • My Taket

        August 20, 2023 at 11:51 pm

        The Trumpfluffers are difficult to discern: psychotic serious or passable parody.

    • Salt1

      August 21, 2023 at 8:26 pm

      You really should read up on Fascism before you throw the term around. There is nothing Fascist about the American conservative

      It’s a Leftist totalitarian construct

  • Tom

    August 19, 2023 at 3:22 pm

    He needs the maga crowd to vote for him but he’s now pretty much alienated every demographic of voter in the country. Who on earth does he think likes him enough to vote for him. This is like watching slow motion political suicide. Maybe the debate will speed things up and he can bugger off (unfortunately) back to Florida.

    • ERic

      August 19, 2023 at 6:38 pm

      He is leading in every poll. Sure it’s way too early. But Independents as well are showing majority support. Drop the personality nonsense, and the propaganda, and you might see, as many do, the benefit of supporting the man the Leftists and totalitarians hate. If someone were to come forward with similar policies, and the guts to carry them out I would support that person- I thought that was DeSantis, but it is not.

      • Johnathan Galt

        August 20, 2023 at 9:17 am

        Correct.

        We don’t need a smooth-talking suit.

        We need a wrecking ball.

        Trump is the man for the job.

        • Bob

          August 20, 2023 at 3:44 pm

          Sure. He almost wrecked democracy on January 6. He’s a wrecker all right.
          Trump doesn’t give a damn about anything except Trump. He’s willing to sell out anyone or anything, including our country, to get whatever he needs to feed his swollen ego. And the brain-dead MAGA cultists just follow along like a lemmings over the cliff, blissfully believing that this greedy con-man is their Messiah. It’s pitiful.

        • Bob

          August 20, 2023 at 3:44 pm

          Sure. He almost wrecked democracy on January 6. He’s a wrecker all right.
          Trump doesn’t give a damn about anything except Trump. He’s willing to sell out anyone or anything, including our country, to get whatever he needs to feed his swollen ego. And the brain-dead MAGA cultists just follow along like a lemmings over the cliff, blissfully believing that this greedy con-man is their Messiah. It’s pitiful.

      • Kirk

        August 20, 2023 at 1:03 pm

        RDS repeatedly demonstrated his willingness to put forward controversial conservative policies and to fight to successfully implement them. In fact, probably at least to the same degree as Trump and maybe more effectively. RDS is not a massive egoist who turns on people the instant they express a non-conforming idea to his. I also think DeSantis is more intelligent than Trump (who is, admittedly, very smart). But Trump is a far more shallow person and will wave his arms and scream, “Drain the swamp!”, but RDS has the same objective but can explain the details of how he will accomplish the task. Vivek Ramaswamy is good this way too.

        Trump will lose the general election if he gets that far. Biden is not going to be the Dem candidate, and I don’t think Kamala will be either. Trump’s historic negatives and self-destructive impulses severely reduce his odds of beating the Dems.

    • Johnathan Galt

      August 20, 2023 at 9:16 am

      Right? Calling 80% of your voter base “empty vessels” is not sound campaign strategy – it is sour grapes and indicative of someone lacking the judgement for the role they seek.

      • Kurt

        August 20, 2023 at 2:38 pm

        Its CRAZY ain’t it.. RDS could have kept his mouth shut and waited till Trump was disqualified then he could have swooped in and picked up the MAGA crowd but now he’s just a Bush conservative and he won’t be electable…

        One thing is for sure, we are going to have to back whoever makes it into the primaries be it Trump or someone else, otherwise Biden will sell us to the Chinese.

  • ScienceBLVR

    August 19, 2023 at 3:31 pm

    I don’t know if DeSantis is a fascist, but Geeezzeee what a whiner! My, my, who’s the snowflake now? Interesting to see he is finally dissing Trump a bit, but is denigrating Trumpers the way to go? Seems like an ineffective campaign strategy for sure. And can his handlers doing something about his interjection of LIKE in every sentence? Often, more than once in the same sentence.
    I always told my students not to use it- it’s a filler word. Use a different word- there are so many to choose from!

    • My Take

      August 19, 2023 at 4:38 pm

      We need another term.
      Semi- or quasi-fascist
      Neofascist
      Fascistic
      MAGA medium-fascist

      • My Take

        August 19, 2023 at 5:00 pm

        It’s a bit more like the fascism of Spain and Portugal dictatorships: Falangism.
        But with evangelicals rather than the Catholic Church.

      • Johnathan Galt

        August 20, 2023 at 9:18 am

        More sad Fascist projection.

        • My Taket

          August 20, 2023 at 11:58 pm

          Same llne over and over.
          Lame.
          Christy ID’d the type

    • My Take

      August 19, 2023 at 4:43 pm

      So, like, you know, stuff like that does get, you know, overdone. Especially in, like, narratives. Use other stuff.

  • Dont Say FLA

    August 19, 2023 at 4:10 pm

    A movement can’t be about the personality of one individual when that individual is no-personality Ron DeSantis. But when it’s Trump, it’s 100% about the personality of one individual. The guy is a total zero but some folks are, unfathomably, fanboys anyhow. Maybe they inhaled at the NASCAR races.

  • Patti

    August 19, 2023 at 4:26 pm

    I’m in FL and have taken a close look at DeSantis’ legislation. He works for corp interests, not the people.
    He signed 2 bills favoring the ins industry last yr. We now have the highest homeowners rates in the country.
    He protected hosp’s from remdesivir/vent malpractice suits.
    At the request of Ken Griffin/Citadel lobbyists he just allowed an exception for Chinese real estate purchases near FL military bases.
    His medical “freedom” law allows FL officials to enforce int’l health policies.
    His handpicked Pub Svc Comm’ers made massive investments in wind and solar pgms and 1200 sq mile solar farm. Now elec grid is threatened and prices are skyrocketing.
    I support Trump because he supports America. Ron doesn’t. It’s that simple.

    • Kenneth L Gallaher

      August 19, 2023 at 6:24 pm

      1200 square mile solar farm. Bet we could see that on Google maps if it was not a lie.

      • patti

        August 19, 2023 at 6:50 pm

        Look it up. Florida Power & Light bought 1200 sq miles of FL farmland at a federally incentivized renewable discount for FPL’s save the planet solar binge.

        • Kenneth L Gallaher

          August 19, 2023 at 7:36 pm

          The old “just Google it” thing…..

        • Kenneth L Gallaher

          August 19, 2023 at 8:46 pm

          Good for them. It’s the future.

          • Edo Tokyo

            August 20, 2023 at 9:19 am

            The future of China. And China has such a stellar record for mining safety and environmental concerns.

            By the way, renewable energy is just as damaging to the environment and less reliable than fossil fuels. The first generation of solar panels is about to fail & they have no idea how to dispose of these hazards to the environment as they potentially leech toxic materials into the soil.

            Have you seen what solar or wind farms look like? Make for beautiful landscapes that kill animals. Look up the whale deaths along the Eastern seaboard of US because of wind farm development in the Atlantic Ocean..

            Also there aren’t enough of the raw earth materials required for renewable energy. But I’m sure you’ll be very happy living in an authoritarian 15-minute city where your life is regulated by an elite political class managed by tyrannical corporate oligarchs.

          • Tom Arrow

            August 20, 2023 at 10:48 am

            First you say it’s a “lie” then you say it’s the “future”. Therefore I say you are just a leftist rabble-rouser devoid of intelligent thought.

        • MjM

          August 20, 2023 at 3:04 pm

          Your are most likely not in Florida, and it is obvious you haven’t looked at anything….

          Lie #1. >>>> We now have the highest homeowners rates in the country.

          Florida ranks in the middle of the pack, about 10% below the national average in homeowner insurance rates for 2023. The highest rate states are Tornado Alley states: Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, as they have always been.

          Lie #2: >>>>> His medical “freedom” law allows FL officials to enforce int’l health policies.

          SB 252 Sec.3 Sec. 381.00321 prohibits any government agency, including state agencies, towns, cities, counties, committees, boards, judicial branches, and education entities from implementing or enforcing any international health org’s policy or guidelines unless explicitly authorized by state legislative law or governor executive order.

          Lie #3: >>>>> he just allowed an exception for Chinese real estate purchases near FL military bases.

          “ In a recent news release, the Republican announced his signing of that bill and two others which are meant to “counteract” what he described as “the malign influence of the Chinese Communist party in the state of Florida”.

          One bill restricts Chinese nationals from buying land in Florida unless they are also American citizens or permanent residents.

          Chinese citizens with non-tourist visas, meanwhile, would be limited to buying fewer than two acres of land that is at least five miles away from any military institutions, the Tampa Bay television news outlet WTVT reported.”

          Lie #4: >>>>> and 1200 sq mile solar farm.

          FPL has purchased about 12,000 acres in the last couple years. In several different counties. That’s 18.75 sq. miles. The latest was in June, around 7000 acres, in Manatee and Collier counties. That’s 10.93 sq. miles.

      • Eric

        August 19, 2023 at 6:57 pm

        Wait until it’s finished, right? So, you don’t care.

    • Eric K Jeffers

      August 19, 2023 at 6:44 pm

      Yes, all troublesome. I liked DeSantis and was hopeful, until I saw how he kowtowed to the donor class, changed his mind on key issues, and ran to his donors for campaign advise for his 3rd reset. I guess they now told him to criticize Trump. And he boasts that he’ll dismantle the deep state all while counting on the deep state to take out his political rival. I was waiting for him to show some character and step up and say they’ve gone too far with what’s happening to Trump.

      • MJ

        August 20, 2023 at 7:53 am

        To say I’m disappointed in my governor is an understatement. I was so excited to see him run and I thought I knew the guy. Boy was I wrong!! Insurance is out of control in Florida, former Chicago resident & BIG GOP donor Ken Girffin gets his way with Florida now that he lives and works here. China is buying property closer to military installations now that Ron signed a bill allowing them to be closer. He has protected hospital for malpractice claims over Remdisivir, which is known to cause kidney failure. The list continues to grow in favor of the Rove/Ryan GOP. Not the voters. This governor is all plastic. What we see on the outside is NOT what’s inside. Glad we see this now.

        • Brian Anderson

          August 20, 2023 at 10:15 am

          It will be interesting to see if DeSantis does what his bosses, some very wealthy Neo Cons, have told him to do at the debate. He has become a puppet.

    • Van and Thea Thorne

      August 19, 2023 at 10:08 pm

      Amen, well said:)

  • PeterH

    August 19, 2023 at 5:35 pm

    Lawrence Tribe and retired Judge Michael Luttig have penned an article in The Atlantic, THE CONSTITUTION PROHIBITS TRUMP FROM EVER BEING PRESIDENT AGAIN, citing several conservative authors who have recently revisited Section 3 of the 14th Amendment that was written after the Confederates attempted to dismantle the United States. The following statement does not state that Trump needed to be CONVICTED of insurrection …. only that he gave ‘comfort’ to the people involved.

    Here is the cited section:

    “No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”

    If Trump wins the nomination I’ll bet that more than several States will refuse to put Trump’s name on the ballot and the Supreme Court will be summoned to interpret this challenge.

    • Eric

      August 19, 2023 at 6:49 pm

      It says elector of VP or P. Article 2 of the Constitution states the qualifications for President. What occurred was nothing near an insurrection- That’s only in the minds of the Democrats who have no trouble changing definitions to meet their own narratives, and now Never-Trumpers are willing to do the same. We must be smarter and fight harder.

      • PeterH

        August 19, 2023 at 8:47 pm

        “…..or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

        Insurrection is not necessary for Trump and his collaborators …… to be permanently disqualified. Re-read Section 3.

        • Kurt

          August 20, 2023 at 4:16 pm

          I know if your little leftist mind that an insurrection happened on January 6th but you would be incorrect. Quit listening to CNN and MSNBC, they lie.

          January was not different than when BLM occupied the capital and Nancy Piglosi’s office yet somehow that was a peaceful demonstration.

  • Mark miller

    August 19, 2023 at 5:37 pm

    Capone got his ,gotti got his and trump is getting his. Keep standing there dumbsantis because your next,

    • Eric K Jeffers

      August 19, 2023 at 6:55 pm

      You placed Trump with Capone and Gotti? Really? Paperwork dispute, with only civil penalties, and accusations tat fall into the category of free speech? See how the rule of law is undermined by such stupid ideas.

      • My Take

        August 20, 2023 at 7:36 am

        Paperwork dispute,
        =======
        Yeah, like the Ukraine war is just a border dispute.

  • Kenneth L Gallaher

    August 19, 2023 at 6:19 pm

    The GOP has no viable 2024 POTUS candidate.

    • Eric

      August 19, 2023 at 6:50 pm

      And the Democrats do??

      • Kenneth L Gallaher

        August 19, 2023 at 7:37 pm

        YES

      • Kurt

        August 20, 2023 at 4:24 pm

        LOL.. they will put fourth their Weekend @ Bernies candidate.. ole sleepy joe.

    • Johnathan Galt

      August 20, 2023 at 9:19 am

      Cry harder. And, enjoy President Trump’s second term – he owes it to people like you!

      • My Take

        August 20, 2023 at 10:32 am

        What’s going to be interesting isTrump’s and MAGA’s reacton to another defeat.
        Trump will howl, but the MAGA dregs seem too listless now to do much of anything beyond that.

  • Nicholas A Dorazio

    August 19, 2023 at 7:11 pm

    I was a huge DeSantis fan. I spent more than two dozen hours volunteering for his gubernatorial campaign. He has not perceived that there are tens of millions of us who are big fans of Trump who are angry at progressives for using lawfare to tie up Trump and angry at old-school GOP for hindering his first two years. DeSantis made a very bad decision to cozy up to the old-school GOP donor class.

    I may lose another 20% of my 401K if Biden is re-elected but I’ll never support someone who bad-mouths Trump.

  • Len Mullen

    August 19, 2023 at 10:09 pm

    Worst politician of all time. With that statement, Desanctimonious wrote off 62% of Republican voters. FRD.

  • My Take

    August 19, 2023 at 10:34 pm

    Listess vessels?
    Deplorables?

    More like detestables?

    • Johnathan Galt

      August 20, 2023 at 9:21 am

      You are scared, we understand. Your dreams of totalitarian utopia are slipping away, and it will take generations before you have another chance.

      Cry harder!

      • My Take

        August 20, 2023 at 9:46 am

        And delusional.
        Few come crazier than Rand ravers.

  • My Take

    August 19, 2023 at 10:56 pm

    moRon’s internal exile in disgrace: 2024-26.
    How many public universities has he not yèt degraded?
    How many public colleges?

  • My Take

    August 20, 2023 at 12:41 am

    Listless?
    Worthless.
    Not one single good riot with all the indictments
    After all the dire warnings of such from Trumpy.
    MAGA Milquetoasts.

  • Stia

    August 20, 2023 at 4:37 am

    In other words we’re deplorables.

    • My Take

      August 20, 2023 at 7:04 am

      Detestabĺes
      Despicables
      Disgustables

      • Johnathan Galt

        August 20, 2023 at 9:22 am

        …according to polls taken among abusive, dysfunctional totalitarians.

        • My Take

          August 20, 2023 at 9:28 am

          Ayn fans?

  • Sheri H

    August 20, 2023 at 7:33 am

    #Trump2024tosaveAmerica
    Ron showed his colors and lost MANY voters

  • john wilson

    August 20, 2023 at 8:09 am

    The Trump vote is and always was simply Good vs Evil. We jut can’t let the Satanic Democrats push us into the Globalists RESET without a fight. We know Trump is not perfect, bu he will fight to keep us out. DeSantis would be well warned o stop attacking MAGA, that will not work of him even if Trump is taken out of the election, we will vote NON-GLOBALIST and NON-RINO

    • My Take

      August 20, 2023 at 3:44 pm

      Globalists
      ======
      Go ahead and say it.
      We know what it is a routine code word for.
      Jewish

  • Hugh Jorgan

    August 20, 2023 at 8:30 am

    Mr. DeSantis still failed to answer the question as to who is filling his war chest. Just went into a long list of accomplishments. His avoidance tells me all I need to know.

  • Jim1937

    August 20, 2023 at 8:58 am

    DeSantas is the best governor in the country, but this was a “Basket of Deplorables” moment and may mark the end of his presidential campaign.

    • My Take

      August 20, 2023 at 9:39 am

      “DeSantas is the best governor in the country’
      =======
      I do have to agree with DeSSantis on one matter.
      Florida is clearly in need of more mental health services.

    • Michael K

      August 20, 2023 at 10:23 am

      One can hope.

  • Roger Pebble

    August 20, 2023 at 9:16 am

    Mr Jones, we know what you did. RAT.

  • T

    August 20, 2023 at 9:39 am

    Says the empty listless vessel filled with uniparty advisor talking points.

  • Kitty

    August 20, 2023 at 9:42 am

    Did you know desantis’s bill to STOP CHINA’s purchasing land at least 25 miles from military bases in FL JUST was watered down to 5 miles thanks to Ken Griffen? He’s owned. Beware.

    • My Take

      August 20, 2023 at 9:54 am

      If that includes Reserve HQs and Coàst Guard docks that could be pretty restrictive. Possi re just major bases. But even then, the AvonPark Bombing Range would take out a pretty big chunk of territory.

  • Cobraboy

    August 20, 2023 at 10:37 am

    Indeed, a Hillary “Deplorables” moment.

    This just shows that RDS does NOT understand the MAGA movement, even though it got him elected…twice.

    I knew he was a RINO when I read he hired a bunch of !JEB!’s cronies as advisors, and then Karl Rove started pimping him.

    And then the coup de gras: his flip-flop on Ukraine, from “we should not engage in a local border dispute” to “Yes, I Stand With Ukraine.”

    As a Floridian who voted for him twice, my support for future DeSantis political endeavors has chilled considerably.

    Ron, you brought this totally on yourself by putting your fate in the hands of RINOs.

  • My Take

    August 20, 2023 at 11:09 am

    MAGA — The Lying Loser’s Legion of Listless.
    Maybe iike the IX’th they will eventually just disappear.

  • My Take

    August 20, 2023 at 11:19 am

    MAGAs are basically lifeless vessels too.
    Like zombies and ghouls.

  • M. Mouse

    August 20, 2023 at 11:50 am

    Trump followers! DeSantis fans!
    Like a bunch of angry cats in a bag!
    What a great cartoon!
    Squeak!

  • Karen Schoen

    August 20, 2023 at 12:47 pm

    DeSantis lied to Floridians when he said he would be a Gov for 4 years. He is a part time Gov getting a full time salary so Floridians are paying for his campaign. In the mean time Energy, Insurance, local control and more illegals are losses under his watch. Why would you want another liar as President?

  • My Take

    August 20, 2023 at 2:34 pm

    The MAGA-rich demographics are not lustless, though. As child-molesting and chid-porn crime statistics show.

  • Disgruntled

    August 20, 2023 at 3:48 pm

    I’m all-in for Trump, because of ISSUES, not personality!

    Ron DeeSantis is on the wrong side of many issues, and is completely without personality.

  • Quincey

    August 20, 2023 at 3:52 pm

    Ron needs to stop talking about Trump.

  • My Take

    August 20, 2023 at 4:12 pm

    They certainly are not lardless vessels.

  • DeSantis Supporter

    August 20, 2023 at 4:24 pm

    Trump and his supporters should be apologizing to us for the nazi memes he retweeted, and the vile names we were called including the C and N words, and other slurs. But where is the MSM on that?

  • ed bernard

    August 20, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    I guess Desantis should stop picking fights with mickey mouse ……but here in florida rent has doubled since he took office and home owners policies are now a luxury …major price gouging on gas prices going on ……and this is why florida had a law requiring someone running for higher office to give up their current office in order to run …….but i really think desantis mouth is catching up to him and his arrogance

  • Doug

    August 20, 2023 at 7:02 pm

    Ron is frustrated the Democrats are garnering support for Trump which will be impossible to overcome. He’s making a mistake by attacking Trump. Even bigger mistake giving the impression he is attacking the voters. At this point the rest of the field should be showing support to the man who will easily win the nomination

  • My Taket

    August 21, 2023 at 12:21 am

    LISTLESS VESSELS !!
    We need to make sure the expression stays current, that is, frequently encountered.

  • My Taket

    August 21, 2023 at 1:14 am

    Listless is a lot more charitable than what most southerners would use.
    Lazy
    No account
    Worthless (“wuthless”)
    And a LOT more.
    Egg-sucking bisquit eater (of dogs)

  • My Taket

    August 21, 2023 at 1:22 am

    And remember, it was their listless ancestors who made the south need slaves to do all the work.

  • Richard C. Russell

    August 24, 2023 at 11:31 am

    Ron would still be an insignificant Congressman or less, if Trump hadn’t supported him in his initial Governor Primary in 2018. He is as bad as Hillary (remember the bag of deplorable’s comment). Had he had any common sense and not listened to the puppet makers and not run for President; he might have received a Cabinet post or VP with Trump so he would be prepared to run and win the Presidency in 2028. But no, he let others control him!!!

  • Joseph Ballew

    August 25, 2023 at 8:01 am

    Trump is the best president in US history. he did not sell out, take a salary. He took a failed Obama economy and turned it around in 6 months. Democrats gave us Covid to win an election, by fraud I might add. They try to normalize all the abominations in the bible. The Illumini are devil worshipers that are billionaires that controls Hollywood, News media, sports figures, politicians, and musicians. If you don’t do what they say, you lose your job in those fields. You have big name actors fighting back. Most politicians are on the take. Trump is not! He did every thing he said he would. They try to attack him with fake news, but we know who is behind the curtain pulling the strings. We will fight to expose those pulling the strings, but Trump is the only President that has ball enough to stand up to them. Trump is not perfect, nor is anyone else

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