Jacob Ogles
A measure that would protect abortion rights in Florida’s Constitution still lacks support to pass on Election Day.
That’s according to a new survey from St. Pete Polls, conducted for Florida Politics, which shows Amendment 4 failing. The poll found almost 54% of voters will support the measure, but Florida law requires 60% of voters weighing in on a ballot measure to vote “yes” for it to become enshrined in the constitution.
The poll found just under 38% of voters are against the initiative. That means the supporters of the amendment need to win over most of the undecided voters, who make up 8% of those surveyed.
Amendment 4 would reverse a Florida ban on abortions six weeks in pregnancy, and effectively restore access to the status quo before the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.
Pollsters report a margin of error of 2.8 percentage points. Results are based on responses from 1,227 likely General Election voters polled from Oct. 23 to 25.
Of note, the measure looks to be in better shape among those who already cast their ballot by mail or in-person early voting, nearly half of those surveyed.
But even there, less than 58% of those who already cast their vote say they supported Amendment 4, while 37% say they voted against it; a remaining 5% did not say if they voted on the measure one way or the other or left it blank.
The poll found almost 79% of Democrats support the ballot measure, with 15% against it. Republicans, in contrast, broke against it 59% to 32%. A majority of independent voters, almost 57%, support the amendment while 36% are firmly opposed.
Almost 66% of voters age 29 and younger plan to support Amendment 4, but no other age demographic has polling that exceeds 60% support.
About 55% of women and 53% of men support the measure.
StPetePolls 2024 State GEN October25 U74PS6 by Jacob Ogles on Scribd
42 comments
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Cheesy Floridian
October 28, 2024 at 8:44 am
Get out and vote! Don’t let DeSantis win! He has for to long taken away or passed things in this state and he says everyone supports it. This is the time to make it know. That we don’t support extreme agendas. We don’t like what he’s pushing and we support freedom.
Dave98
October 28, 2024 at 2:34 pm
Extremism is amending the Constitution to provide for abortions up to the moment of birth as long as an undefined “health care provider” is OK with it.
Cathryn
November 1, 2024 at 9:46 am
Educate yourself. That does not happen unless their are extreme medical circumstances. I hope you or a loved one are never in those shoes where you have to make that choice. No government should be in a position to make that choice for you, ever.
patty burke
October 28, 2024 at 4:27 pm
It’s very unfortunate that so many voters don’t understand how this Amendment would endanger women seeking abortions. Even with the laws we have in place to make abortion more safe, women are being physically harmed. Without requiring a medical doctor, Amendment 4 will cause much more devastation. Wake up folks! Abortion clinics only care about the money. They have never been interested in the safety of pregnant mothers, including those that have been victims of human trafficking, rape and incest.
PMissy
October 29, 2024 at 8:32 am
then leave Florida
rbruce
October 28, 2024 at 9:58 am
Amdt 4 goes far beyond pre-Roe abortion terms and conditions. Amdt 4 will allow minors open access to elective abortions without parent’s consent. Amdt 4 only mentions notification, not consent. Amdt 4 will allow any self-proclaimed “health care” person to conduct elective abortions. If you love killing babies, Amdt 4 is for you.
Cheesy Floridian
October 28, 2024 at 10:21 am
Lies, Amendment 4 puts it back to what it was with Roe, it does not eliminate the law that requires a parent or guardian to be notified. If you value you freedom and choice, voting yes on 4 makes perfect sense. And even if you personally wouldn’t get an abortion, think about all the women and young girls who might need one in the future. They should be freedom to make that choice and not have the government telling them what they can and cannot do.
Dave98
October 28, 2024 at 2:35 pm
A parent shouldn’t be notified. A parent should have the ability to decide any extreme act done to their child, not just notified.
patty burke
October 28, 2024 at 4:29 pm
Current law requires parental consent for minors seeking abortions. If that minor is a victim of human trafficking, she would have a chance of receiving help. Without parental consent, the traffickers could continue to sell her body.
michelle Hardman
October 29, 2024 at 8:31 am
Cheesy Floridian…..do a little more research. Amendment 4 does not restore Roe vs Wade. Also if you do not like DeSantis move out of FLORIDA!! we do not want you here.
Bill
November 3, 2024 at 1:30 am
Michelle, why don’t YOU leave? If you’re unable to live around people who have different views from you, you would do much better in Afghanistan or North Korea where people aren’t ALLOWED to have differing views. Florida is part of the US. We are a free, democratic country. If you’re unhappy with that, leave.
Dammmgina
October 29, 2024 at 2:51 pm
Right now you need Parental Consent, Amendment 4 changes that to a notification only.
Joe
October 28, 2024 at 12:19 pm
rbruce is lying of course, just like RepubliQans lie about every important issue, because they can’t win any argument on merit.
Lies lies lies lies lies
patty burke
October 28, 2024 at 4:33 pm
Tis you that misunderstands Amendment 4. When and if abortion becomes a constitutional right, nothing will prevent a pregnant mother from having an abortion. The amendment does NOT require a medical doctor. Using the phrase “healthcare provider” was purposeful. Follow the money. If a medical doctor is not required, the clinic owners will have a higher profit margin.
cassandra was right
October 28, 2024 at 1:03 pm
MDs, DOs, APRNs. Same “healthcare providers” as for every other medical procedure or prescription! Don’t panic! It just goes back to Roe!
YES on 4!
Dave98
October 28, 2024 at 2:39 pm
Really? It will be left up to a judge to decide what’s meant by a healthcare provider since it’s not defined in the Amendment.
cassandra was right
October 28, 2024 at 10:59 pm
FINAL WORD ON “HEALTHCARE PROVIDER” from Floridiansprotectingfreedom.com:
“Does this initiative allow people who aren’t doctors to provide an abortion?
No. It ends Florida’s extreme abortion ban.
Healthcare Providers must be licensed to provide healthcare: ‘Healthcare provider’ is used throughout Florida law. They are regulated by the state and must follow medical ethics and the standards of practice or risk losing their licenses. Healthcare providers must be licensed and qualified to provide the particular healthcare at issue. Nothing in Amendment 4 changes that.
You don’t go to your dentist for heart surgery, and no one would go to a massage therapist for an abortion. Healthcare providers are all bound by their scope of practice, standards of care, and ethics. Many doctors, like ophthalmologists for example, are not qualified to administer abortion care. These ridiculous, false claims are only meant to scare and confuse voters.”
Amendment 4 returns abortion to Roe. It gets rid of DeSantis’ disastrous abortion ban.
FREEDOM! DEMOCRACY!
Vote YES on 4!
MarvinM
October 28, 2024 at 1:14 pm
If parental consent is what you are worried about, don’t worry.
Amendment 4 does not change that.
You mention notification v. consent, but if it is a minor, there is already law that says a parent can dictate what can and cannot be done. Voting for Amendment 4 does not negate that.
You can vote YES on 4 and still have what you think is important protected.
Dave98
October 28, 2024 at 2:37 pm
Wrong. This is a Constitutional Amendment that only requires parent “notification,”; it does not require parental consent for a minor. Any “law” you refer to that requires parental consent is automatically illegal if it conflicts with the Constitution.
MarvinM
October 28, 2024 at 10:41 pm
Um, who is the “parent” if a girl becomes pregnant? Why, yes, she is! Not her parents, not the grandparents.
Grandparents have no rights over grandchildren unless they have explicitly been given power of attorney.
There’s plenty of parents whom if their kid came and said “I’m pregnant, I think it’s week 5 maybe I can get an abortion?” who would totally want their kid to be able to get an abortion. But they would not be able to get one in Florida in time. The six week ban is insane.
Amendment 4 is about whether or not you think it’s OK for the government (in this case, the state government) to decide for you whether or not you can – and in what circumstances – you are allowed to have an abortion.
If you believe it’s none of the government’s business, you will vote YES on 4.
Don’t fall for the scare mongering.
Ted Bundy
October 28, 2024 at 2:39 pm
I love killing babies!
sophknows
October 29, 2024 at 5:55 pm
Your sick .
johnfsu
October 28, 2024 at 3:27 pm
Even if all of what you say is true, if only one Florida Woman’s life is saved because a Dr could perform a life saving medical procedure on her, then a yes on #4 is a win. The legislature is to blame for pushing its 6 week ban on the people. Take out your frustrations on them, but in the mean time keep your grubby opinions out of my daughters vagina.
patty burke
October 28, 2024 at 4:57 pm
Tis you that misunderstands Amendment 4. When and if abortion becomes a constitutional right, nothing will prevent a pregnant mother from having an abortion. The amendment does NOT require a medical doctor. Using the phrase “healthcare provider” was purposeful. Follow the money. If a medical doctor is not required, the clinic owners will have a higher profit margin.
patty burke
October 28, 2024 at 4:59 pm
Please read the current law and compare to Amendment 4. Doctors can perform ANY procedure on a woman to save her life under current law. If Amendment 4 passes, there will be NO requirement for a medical doctor to perform abortions.
CBA
October 29, 2024 at 12:39 pm
Republicans are using the parent’s consent excuse to vote against Amendment 4. And the truth is, that if your minor child got pregnant, then you failed as a parent, you failed to protect your child not to get pregnant in the first place, so you don’t have a say on forcing your child to carry a pregnancy.
Joe
October 28, 2024 at 12:17 pm
This is why Ohio voters were wise to pass Issue 1 in the 2023 special election ginned up by the power-mad RepubliQans: 60% is a nearly insurmountable supermajority for the public to democratically overrule gerrymandered career politicians. Too bad for you, Floridians!
cassandra was right
October 28, 2024 at 1:11 pm
If Ohio voters can pass it in a special session, Florida voters can pass it now! 80% of voters want the government out of pregnancy decisions! Make sure your politician Finds Out!
YES on 4!
Zoobee
October 28, 2024 at 3:25 pm
Changing the state Constitution should require nearly everyone to agree. 60% is too low. It should be two-thirds, just like amending the federal Constitution.
OTOH
October 28, 2024 at 11:17 pm
40% is too low to block changes that Floridians want and need. Imagine if only 30% of voters could decide for the entire state!
Zoobee
October 29, 2024 at 2:00 pm
It is not a “change”. It is an amendment to the Florida Constitution. Amendments are a big deal. Federal amendments require the agreement of two-thirds because it is such a big deal. So yes, FL should follow suit. It should require two-thirds to make a change to the FL Constitution.
60% is too low.
Even if I were to agree that the 6 week ban is too strict, enshrining abortion in the FL Constitution is not the answer. Legislation is the answer.
Besides, no one “needs” an abortion up to 9 months. You can end a pregnancy without also killing the baby, if necessary. A premie can survive outside the womb now as early as 21 weeks.
MarvinM
October 29, 2024 at 3:12 pm
Your words: “Even if I were to agree that the 6 week ban is too strict, enshrining abortion in the FL Constitution is not the answer. Legislation is the answer.”
Let me repeat what you said: “Legislation is the answer.”
I hope then that you are voting NO on Amendments 1, 2, 5 and 6, since they were put on the ballot to change the constitution by the legislature, the very body that could have, and should have, legislated those items into being if they thought they were actually important enough.
I agree with you somewhat. Legislation SHOULD be the answer. But when legislators will not listen to the people, the citizens of Florida, should have some recourse and power to make changes to affect their lives. That’s why the citizen’s ability to get stuff on the ballot to amend the constitution exists. It is literally the last resort of power that the people have.
Amendments 3 and 4 are true citizens initiatives, and the State of Florida has been using our tax money to try to get us to vote against them. That should be illegal (if it isn’t already. Maybe it is). I don’t do weed and I will never need an abortion but I am voting YES on 3 and 4.
Also, FL Supreme Court judges Francis and Sasso are on the ballot for retention. They both dissented and tried to keep both amendments 3 and 4 off the ballot. They seem to think we the people do not deserve even a chance of having a voice, and so I am voting NO on Francis, NO on Sasso.
Bill
November 3, 2024 at 1:32 am
It should be 50%. That means one person, one vote. If you don’t like the opinions of your fellow citizens, try to win hearts and minds but you won’t get far trying to take people’s freedoms away.
cassandra was right
October 28, 2024 at 12:49 pm
Abortion rights has passed in EVERY state that has voted on it. It will pass in Florida if YOU — GET OUT and VOTE! DEMOCRACY! LIBERTY!
Get creepy politicians back into their own lane!
YES on 4!
Dave98
October 28, 2024 at 2:42 pm
The extremist pro-abortion agenda is going to die in Florida.
MarvinM
October 28, 2024 at 9:53 pm
YES on 4
Dave98
October 28, 2024 at 2:41 pm
Hopefully these numbers will pan out in the election and this extremist Amendment that will allow abortion up to the time of birth without parental consent as long as some undefined “healthcare provider” agrees with the decision will fail.
Susan
October 29, 2024 at 12:49 pm
Victims of rape, incest and trafficking are allowed abortions up to 15 weeks. First the female must realize she is pregnant. A report must be filed and investigated. The accused must be located and arrested and charges made. Then the case must go through the court system and by the time all of this has come to a conclusion this female will be changing diapers. This is only one of the many reasons our Florida law is ridiculous. Vote YES
Zoobee
October 29, 2024 at 2:05 pm
Nearly everything you said there is complete nonsense. It only requires a police report to be filed so that you can provide documentation of the assault, which should be done immediately. If anything, the law as written will result in these things being reported instead of swept under the rug, which is a win for women.
If you wait 15 weeks to report your rape, and then want an abortion, well, I am sorry but a 15 week old unborn baby should not have to die because you decided to wait.
Susan
November 1, 2024 at 1:32 pm
My comment said nothing about waiting 15 weeks to report rape, incest or trafficking to abort a fetus. There are many reasons why females don’t immediately report these occurrences…so get your head out of the sand. Florida abortion laws are not in any way a win for women or girls.
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