A.G. Gancarski
Florida’s Governor is telling Iowans about an in-state school’s current churn of faculty members, claiming the college is better off.
During an event hosted by Never Back Down in Creston on Saturday morning, Ron DeSantis said New College of Florida was “cycling through faculty” amid changes in the school’s ideological orientation.
However, he claims that attrition really is “addition by subtraction,” given the academic concentrations of departing professors and lecturers.
“But it’s interesting, they’re cycling through faculty. You know, some of these people obviously are not good fits for it. And so faculty are leaving,” DeSantis said.
“They’re recruiting a lot of good faculty,” the Governor added, though the press doesn’t seem to notice.
“The media will be like, ‘Oh there’s a brain drain from New College as faculty leave.’ And I’m like, ‘Wait a minute, if professor of Intersectional Marxism is leaving Florida, that is not a bad thing for the State of Florida,'” DeSantis quipped. “Let’s just be honest. I mean, that’s, that’s addition by subtraction.”
The Governor’s latest comments on New College and its faculty issues come weeks after the Department of Education’s Civil Rights Division launched an investigation into the school, claiming it “excluded qualified persons with disabilities from participation in, denied them the benefits of, or otherwise subjected them to discrimination in its programs, activities, aids, benefits, or services.”
Meanwhile, though the Governor mentioned the departures of faculty, he somehow elided the fact that more than one in four students last academic year did not return to the school, which now has a new President (former House Speaker and Education Commissioner Richard Corcoran, who makes more than $700,000 a year) and a conservative Board of Trustees.
New College is arguably the purest example of DeSantis’ educational vision in the wake of its ideological revamp.
Earlier this year, the Governor spoke at Michigan’s Hillsdale College where he pledged to turn it into a “little Hillsdale.” He has made colorful comments about the school often in recent months, including saying it was “left of the left” and “like a commune” earlier this year at a homeschooling convention.
103 comments
My Take
October 14, 2023 at 10:54 am
Good people flee fascism . . . when they can.
DeSScumtis has ruined a fine university . . . to soon build a rightwing extremist madŕassa.
James Wilson
October 14, 2023 at 3:24 pm
That is why people are fleeing the scum statea of california and NY
James Wilson
October 15, 2023 at 5:32 am
The real James Wilson disagrees. The individual who took over my identity to trash New College and state universities and colleges is why Ron DeSantis and MAGAs are so dangerous. They lie and cheat and steal for their leader with impunity. People come to Florida for the beaches, not for Trump or DeSantis.
MH/Duuuval
October 16, 2023 at 10:55 am
Rich folk also come to FLA. for the shelter from paying their fair share of taxes. And, Ron made a special space for the trust-fund crowd with 1000-year protection from taxation. (Sounds a bit like something out of Nazi Germany and its 1000-year Reich, don’t it?)
rick whitaker
October 19, 2023 at 8:01 pm
the misspelling of the word states makes me suspect earl as your identity thief
M. Mouse
October 14, 2023 at 11:04 am
He’s getting so tiny I can hardly hear him whimper!
Squeak!
My Take
October 14, 2023 at 11:07 am
Ìt is goìng to be a joý to watçh him fail and fall.
And then possibly flounder, with a lègistature not so easily ìntimidated.
James Wilson
October 14, 2023 at 3:28 pm
Go Governor Gaetz!!!
Kenneth L Gallaher
October 14, 2023 at 8:04 pm
Getez will complete the destruction – would be hilarious to watch.
James Wilson
October 15, 2023 at 7:34 am
Not me. MAGA goon.
A Random Guest
October 21, 2023 at 2:51 pm
That’s the pinnacle of Florida GOP rule – a pedo gub’ner who seems to get off the hook while driving dunk.
Gatez:
Pedo-Perfect Florida Man,.
Republicans will overwhelmingly vote for him
Soon to be former student
October 14, 2023 at 11:20 am
New College used to be ranked at the very top of public liberal arts colleges in America. With the students – new and existing – along with faculty vote with their feet and leave the school, it will soon sink to the reputational level of a Devry University. Fascinating to see how an ‘Anti – Woke’ agenda can destroy an institution’s standing, especially one that took over 60 years to build. A race to the bottom. Should be complete about the time DeSantis gets dethroned. Job well done!
James Wilson
October 14, 2023 at 3:26 pm
It is only destroying its rep with low life human trash. We do not want them in Florida anyway. Hopefully all of you stupid commenters will live up to your ideals and leave soon.
My Take
October 14, 2023 at 4:07 pm
DeSScumtis appeals to trash, obviously.
Ned Beatty
October 14, 2023 at 5:15 pm
You’re clearly angry at your betters. Now run along and fetch my fries, McDonald’s boy.
My Takee!
October 15, 2023 at 1:27 am
It would not be hard accomplish more than you one suspects. A mere BA in business would very likely do it swimmingly.
My Take
October 15, 2023 at 1:39 am
Oops. Friendly fire accident.
A danger in nightime engagements.
Curiously, the IDF is more prone to it (aggressive).
And 3 out of 4 Abrams tanks that have been destroyed were by friendly fire.
I have little excuse.
Though I could blame it on Hamas I guess.
rick whitaker
October 19, 2023 at 8:03 pm
are you the pig squealer from the movie deliverance ?
James Wilson
October 15, 2023 at 7:23 am
Okay. Not James Wilson. My identity has been stolen by some twisted MAGA (sorry that is redundant) to trash New College and Florida education in general. This is why fascist Ron and Don are so dangerous. They lie with impunity. Anything to “win”. Sad that Florida voted for them and not us.
rick whitaker
October 18, 2023 at 9:33 pm
so a sensible and intelligent comment is by the real james wilson. and a maga cult sounding rant is the fake james wilson comment, o.k. i got it.
James Wilson
October 19, 2023 at 6:58 am
Thanks. Yes.
Michael K
October 14, 2023 at 11:29 am
So Ron destroys a well-respected college just for a few cheap talking points to feed his failing, personal, political ambition. All at the expense of Florida taxpayers, abetted by a compliant Republican legislature and now headed by a political hack making $1 million.
The damage he’s done to New College is well-known across academia and a warning to educated people just how dangerous and careless Tiny D and his delusional wife are to America.
James Wilson
October 14, 2023 at 3:27 pm
He needs to work over FSU and all of the state and community colleges.
Ned Beatty
October 14, 2023 at 5:56 pm
And you need some teeth, trailer park.
rick whitaker
October 19, 2023 at 8:05 pm
yes you are the pig squealer
James Wilson
October 15, 2023 at 7:24 am
Not James Wilson. A MAGA troll who hates education. Loves Ron and Don. This is why the Internet is so dangerous.
Lee Roller
October 14, 2023 at 6:05 pm
He never intended to be around to deal with the aftermath when all his overreach and unconstitutional, rhetoric-driven, rubber-stamp legislating pandering to the far right finally came apart under legal scrutiny.
Howzat workin’ out for ya Ronny?
He’s going to be left with egg on his face and his dictat in his hands for the back end of his term here as ersatz “Top Guv”
James Wilson
October 15, 2023 at 7:26 am
We will be stuck with Ron for four more years thanks to the uneducable Florida electorate. Competence and judgment mean nothing to the MAGAs.
James Wilson
October 16, 2023 at 4:47 pm
Sadly, we will be left with Ron for four more years because Florida voters are Confederates at heart.
rick whitaker
October 18, 2023 at 9:35 pm
are you saying payback is a mf ?
My Take
October 14, 2023 at 1:51 pm
After the DregSSantis Dark Ages:
Can New College recover ? Totally?
In how long?
My Take
October 14, 2023 at 2:00 pm
On any topic, think of what a dumb redneck’s opiniòn would be, and that will basically be DregSSantis’s bĺeated position.
PeterH
October 14, 2023 at 3:30 pm
‘You know, some of these people obviously are not good fits for it. And so faculty are leaving.’
Don’t you wish our ultra MAGA governor spoke proper English?
Frederick Stephen Bluford
October 14, 2023 at 11:59 pm
Obviously he played hookey at Yale and Harvard. In order to receive a Harvard education, the student must attend class and study. That was too difficult for Ronnie. He states publicly that he is ashamed of his Yale and Harvard degrees. Is the feeling mutual from his former Yale and Harvard professors?
James Wilson
October 15, 2023 at 7:29 am
I recall multiple professors at Penn told people not to vote for Trump. That may explain why he lost the popular vote twice. Sadly, 40% of Americans are too vacuous to learn.
Kenneth L Gallaher
October 14, 2023 at 8:02 pm
Soon nobody will attend there and no company will recruit there.
My Take
October 15, 2023 at 1:51 am
“nobody will attend”
I read a few days ago that a goaĺ is to get home schooled and church schooled kids.
To provide a place where poorly educated but politically favored kids could be admitted and get a college degree.
James Wilson
October 15, 2023 at 7:33 am
If you want homophobic, misogynous, recruits, jocks are a good place to start. Not if you want good grades, though. Hope Florida voters are experiencing buyers remorse under Fascist Ron. He said he was more Trump than Trump. Apparently, no one believed him.
MH/Duuuval
October 16, 2023 at 11:00 am
The overpaid president of the college and champion of for-profit schools, Mr. Corcoran, estimates one-third of the student body will be jocks in 5 years. These are scholarship jocks, which is often an oxymoron though there are exceptionn.
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 4:48 pm
Stereotypes? I thought progressives were against that kind of thinking.
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 9:29 pm
You might want to look at the test scores of homeschoolers vs public school kids. They tend to blow them out of the water when it comes to test scores.
Pastor Pasta
October 18, 2023 at 1:11 pm
*Citation needed
James Wilson
October 18, 2023 at 3:01 pm
If what you say is true, the government could save a lot of money by just letting all kids stay home. Of course, it isn’t true. Home schooled kids who do not plan to go to college do not take the ACT or SAT. The test populations are not equivalent. Plus, most home-schooled kids come from privileged backgrounds.
T. Campbell
October 18, 2023 at 3:07 pm
Yes, the government loves giving up control and money… Maybe take a history lesson on why public schools were invented and mandated and then get back to me.
rick whitaker
October 18, 2023 at 9:47 pm
a misfit that can’t get along in the world but made good grades at home from mommy, is that what you’re touting? christians want to dumb down america so nobody will know that they don’t know much. that’s a plan i guess, for a maga cultist. by the way, what you call stereotypes, are actually educated observations. christians are so close minded. that, is an educated observation. go to church and pray all day, that will make you feel superior, and get you out of educated people’s faces
T. Campbell
October 18, 2023 at 11:11 pm
Do you have a problem with mothers teaching their kids? And, you assume it’s only the mother that does the teaching? I posted links showing the facts, homeschool kids do as good if not better than their public school cohorts. Your retort is to name-call and bash religion. Guess we have different definitions of what educated means.
Educated observations? That’s called a confirmation bias. Try science, it might enlighten you.
James Wilson
October 19, 2023 at 6:57 am
Sad that evangelical Americans are tied to the serial wife cheater and crook in the race. Hypocrisy is rampant in MAGAville.
rick whitaker
October 19, 2023 at 8:18 pm
homeschooling is for haters and fearful people. of course there are anomalies, but the main reason is for hateful, racist reasons. since you are touting homeschooling, i don’t expect you to agree. one of my daughters homeschooled and the state made her bring her kids in for science lessons and exams. also all 5 of her kids left home when they turned 18 to join the real world. you sound like a christian white supremast.
James Wilson
October 19, 2023 at 8:34 pm
Actually, I grew up in Kansas. We had almost no home schoolers and no private schools that I know of except for a few who attended our Catholic parochial school. Florida, and Southern states in general, have a plethora of private schools and home schoolers established after 1964, when Southern schools began to integrate. Trump and DeSantis long for the golden days of segregation.
T. Campbell
October 19, 2023 at 10:29 pm
I’ll just leave this here for all of you. Maybe time to do some introspection on why you are so angry and demand the government take care of you. But you won’t because you claim math and science are racist.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S009265661100170X
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29355104/
Rev. Grant Balfour
October 15, 2023 at 12:17 am
The director of data science, a successful CEO who sold the company he founded and thought building a program at New College would be good… he left this year.
Organic chemists, neurobiologists… gone.
People keep buying the idea that it was “woke,” when in fact it was an educational laboratory that churned out CEOs. (Enjoy your Popeyes & Pepsi.)
James Wilson
October 15, 2023 at 5:20 am
Someone has stolen my identity and posted MAGA comments using it. Governor DeSantis is obviously ruining New College and education generally in Florida by forcing his brand of fascism on the state.
Sonja Fitch
October 15, 2023 at 7:34 am
Destroying freedom of speech “aint cycling “. Desantis you are a hypocrite! Desantis YOU Are a damn liar! Desantis is AGAINST anything and everything that is common good! Get out Desantis!
Aaron Hillegass
October 15, 2023 at 9:21 pm
I taught statistics and computer science at New College, and I left because of the change in leadership.
Here is the things about faculty departures: you don’t get to choose who leaves. 40% of the faculty have left New College — but among them were the very brightest and most dedicated. A lot of the professors that you wish would leave or retire, will just stay because it is easier.
I will be teaching in the College of Computing at Georgia Tech starting in January. Georgia Tech is the #6 CS program in the country. UF is #48. At New College, my classes had 10 students in them. At Georgia Tech, I’m expecting 300 people in each of my classes. No one will bother me with their politics — I will be able to focus on my teaching and research.
In recent decades, Florida has had many conservative governors. Until Governor DeSantis, they had always recognized their role as stewards of the university system. Jeb Bush, for example, wouldn’t have damaged a Florida university by using it for political stunts or as a tool for rewarding his most loyal cronies. I wish Ron DeSantis had half Jeb’s wisdom and restraint.
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 12:08 pm
Why should politics have any influence on a hard science like statistics and CS? You left because your bias would have got you fired anyway.
James Wilson
October 16, 2023 at 3:37 pm
That comment cements your unfitness for academia. No one should be fired for merely political reasons, unless you plan to create Nazi University or Moscow State of Florida. The problem is your new students and faculty are not as smart as the kind you are kicking out. Good bigots; lousy scholars.
Nathaniel Ashby
October 16, 2023 at 4:00 pm
So bias is okay if it’s your kind of bias? There should be no bias in a tech/math-related program. There are objective answers, not “ways of knowing”.
Smartness is not defined by political views or standardized tests. Sitting around talking about oppression does not make you smart. It makes you useless.
James Wilson
October 16, 2023 at 4:30 pm
Loser nazi bigot.
James Wilson
October 16, 2023 at 4:38 pm
I wish I could flag posts here. The “James Wilson” comment to you is posted by some typical MAGA low-life who is trying to use my identity to troll the Internet. I really regret that Al Gore invented the Internets. Trump and Elon Musk have made it toxic.
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 4:43 pm
Yet we see conservative professors being fired or pushed out across the nation.
Also more name-calling? You must be an excellent debater.
James Wilson
October 16, 2023 at 4:50 pm
28% of professors say they are conservatives. 27% are moderate. 46% are liberal. About what you would expect in an educated group.
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 4:56 pm
Won’t let me reply to you James, but your numbers seem inflated for conservatives based on: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/02/27/research-confirms-professors-lean-left-questions-assumptions-about-what-means
They also don’t define what moderate means, so I would suspect they lean left.
Aaron Hillegass
October 16, 2023 at 10:49 pm
There was no chance that New College would ever fire me. In fact, President Corcoran (to his credit) begged me to stay after my Tampa Bay Times op-ed and again after my resignation letter was reprinted in The Wall Street Journal.
Do you really find it so hard to believe that some very capable people (with no Marxist leanings) do not want to be associated with New College?
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 11:17 pm
My general view is only cowards run away. I would also guess the “begging you to stay” was more about losing your donation than about losing you.
That being said I do respect your ability to make money off of stupid people (i.e., people who buy apple products and drain their brains on useless apps). So kudos for that.
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 12:00 am
You’re a Democrat, you would have got axed at some point. And, he wasn’t begging you to stay, he was begging for your money to stay.
Kudo on building your wealth by exploiting people and associating with such wonderful people as Steve Jobs…
James Wilson
October 17, 2023 at 7:05 am
A person’s political beliefs should have no impact on anyone’s ability to teach or their ability to serve their students and institution. The obvious exception is Tom Campbell, who apparently wants anyone else fired who does not share his political views. Florida does not have, or did not used to have, educational madrasas, where kids were indoctrinated by ideologues.
Aaron Hillegass
October 17, 2023 at 8:14 am
T Campbell, you sound like the Marxist in this conversation!
Regardless of the reason, leadership wanted me to stay. Ron is definitely trying to put lipstick on this pig.
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 8:35 am
Hillegass – There is a difference between Marxism and recognizing the inherently exploitative nature of certain companies/organizations/products. Clearly, an educated person such as yourself understands the difference.
Wilson – I agree it shouldn’t. Unfortunately, the democrats of this world can’t seem to keep their ideologies out of the classroom.
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 9:26 am
I agree James they shouldn’t, but they do. Democrats/liberals have a hard time keeping their bias out of the classroom. Conservatives not so much. Probably can be attributed to the personality differences that exist between the two.
Recognizing that there are products/services that are inherently harmful or exploitative is not the same as being anti-free market, Aaron. I am just pointing out that you made your money in ways that I think large swaths of society, both left (e.g., taking advantage of homeowners) and right (e.g., Apple and useless apps), would see as being pretty dirty.
James Wilson
October 17, 2023 at 10:07 am
The article you cite in a previous response seems to contradict your points. It suggests that most faculty identify as liberal, but many are “moderate” and conservative. It also relates that most students do not feel indoctrinated and most conservative professors seem quite comfortable in academe. They conclude with a survey, which shows that 56% of liberal professors would want a career teaching now versus 66% of conservative professors. What troubles me is the fascism that impels you (and the Right generally) to want to expel everyone who is not a right wing ideologue from being a teacher or student in Florida. We are not yet Nazi Germany or Russia, though that seems to be the goal of one political party here.
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 10:46 am
The article says less than 10% of professors are conservative. Given that in the population, it is closer to 40% that suggests there is a bias. Most people who identify as moderates lean left (37% of Democrats identifying as moderate -https://news.gallup.com/poll/388988/political-ideology-steady-conservatives-moderates-tie.aspx).
The article also states that students did not feel comfortable expressing their views. However, the authors conclude it’s not a problem because some said it helped them better articulate their conservative thinking.
Reading skills, embrace them.
rick whitaker
October 18, 2023 at 9:51 pm
you sound like a grammar school bully fool.
T. Campbell
October 18, 2023 at 11:05 pm
Sorry if objective reasoning is too much for you.
rick whitaker
October 19, 2023 at 8:32 pm
your white christian supremacist attitude offends me. your statements touting this and that stat is cherry picking and ugly. i can’t stand punks like you. now based on what i just said, what % do i fit in in your silo mind? that’s a rhetorical question of course because i don’t care what punks like you think.. you are a bully, period. f you
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 12:06 pm
As someone who has been an academic for the last 17 years, I can say that every university I have been at has been run and policed by liberals. There is no freedom of speech if that speech does not conform to whatever the liberal administrators, professors, and students want. There is similarly no freedom of research if that research is not in line with the groupthink. This bias stifles progress, particularly in the domain of technology. People are just upset that their bias is being diminished for once.
I think New College will do well in carving out a unique niche – many conservatives in the US would prefer to go to a school that aligns with their beliefs. Also, the attacks on homeschooled kids are pretty gross. Homeschooled kids typically score better than their peers in most subjects. This makes sense when public schools are basically diploma mills that do more babysitting than teaching.
MH/Duuuval
October 16, 2023 at 2:58 pm
Dorm counselor at Liberty U?
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 3:03 pm
Internationally known applied researcher with over 60 publications and a successful startup. The fact you have to try to disparage those who disagree with you says a lot about you.
Rev. Grant Balfour
October 16, 2023 at 7:03 pm
One of the things about New College that has been grossly misrepresented is that it was a rare exception to this. I learned philosophy from a marine who was also a gymnast; if you listen to Derek Black talk about his actual experiences, he chose the place as the heir-apparent to David Duke *because* he could study what he wanted, and the administration knew who he was and went to lengths to make him welcome as a scholar. (He actually says now they were probably too tolerant of his views back then, which he since abandoned after investigating them.)
The one thing the place was was tolerant of strange ideas.
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 9:27 pm
The Derek Black story is a great one. Unfortunately, things have changed a lot in the past decade and I find it unlikely he would have had such a life-changing experience on today’s hard-left campuses where disagreement is met with violence. If anything, they would have likely pushed him farther into silly racist beliefs.
MH/Duuuval
October 16, 2023 at 11:22 pm
Sorry, but I have both attended and taught at a handful of colleges and universities — I won’t claim my career was as illustrious as yours, but you may be a poseur — and what I discerned in academia was that no college president is “woke” like you imagine since no governing board would permit it.
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 11:45 pm
All the ones I have interacted with are. But my experience is mostly on the west coast and at larger private unis (eg, upenn, carnegie, etc) so I suppose there might be some non-democrat ones out there.
James Wilson
October 17, 2023 at 7:19 am
I am either blocked from answering Tom Campbell or he isn’t allowing comments. As you say, every university I know of is very tolerant of faculty with diverse, even extreme, political beliefs. I suspect he is a poser, since he claims conservative professors are victims of violence for their beliefs. No one seriously believes that lefties use guns to attack people. Virtually every killer or attacker, ever, has had a MAGA tilt, viewing their right to assault anyone else is their inherent right—Nikolas Cruz for example. MAGAs see threats in others that they themselves pose in reality.
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 8:28 am
James Wilson I didn’t block responding, I like free speech. I am also blocked from responding to you.
You might want to look back to all the conservative speakers and groups being attacked circa 2019-2020. I don’t recall conservative students rioting when someone expressed a view they disagreed with. Now those students are quiet because the campus is not safe for them if they express their views.
If you really feel conservatives are safe on campus here’s a little experiment for you. Wear a MAGA hat and an Anti-abortion shirt and walk around a liberal campus or any liberal bastion and tell me how that goes for you.
Lastly, people don’t only use “guns” to commit violence. As you liberals say, “Silence is violence” and “words” are violence too.
James Wilson
October 16, 2023 at 3:39 pm
Hillsdale College?
T. Campbell
October 16, 2023 at 3:57 pm
R1s both in the US and abroad.
James Wilson
October 16, 2023 at 4:32 pm
Religious visa?
rick whitaker
October 18, 2023 at 9:59 pm
if you were my teacher i would throw a spitball at you, and then after the first one was thrown, a blizzard of spitballs would be coming at you. you sound as about as dumb as desantis sounds when he talks. what christian school did you teach at? public schools are far more democratic and diverse than a homeschool or christian school. who wants to be educated in an echo chamber or a silo? fascist !
T. Campbell
October 18, 2023 at 11:04 pm
My students, both left and right love me. I teach at an R1 and I use your tax dollars to fund my research.
Public schools are cesspools. Half the kids in the US can’t even read or write. Diversity for diversities’ sake is silly. Merit is all that matters.
rick whitaker
October 19, 2023 at 8:37 pm
now that is a very fascist statement, you revealed yourself.
MH/Duuuval
October 17, 2023 at 12:10 pm
Intolerance works both ways from TNR online:
Queer Arizona State University Professor Injured by Right-Wing Activists
A film crew affiliated with Turning Point USA allegedly pushed an ASU English professor to the ground while trying to confront him about a drag story hour group he co-founded.
by Ellie Quinlan Houghta
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 12:27 pm
“The Turning Point USA video shows Boyles ignoring the men until the end of the clip, when Boyles appears to strike the camera and the video cuts out.” – So he attacked them and they responded.
Not saying there is no violence coming from the right, but the left seems to be much more accepting/embracing of it, particularly when it comes to silencing anyone who disagrees with them.
Joe
October 17, 2023 at 3:54 pm
Or: “The Turning Point USA video shows TP’s hired thug harassing Boyles and repeatedly initiating contact with him until the video cuts out, after which their right wing followers such as T.Campbell rushed to their computers to fuel the GQP outrage machine with their spin.”
Keep on licking that boot, TC.
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 6:42 pm
The video shows him attacking the camera because he was being asked questions. Sure, they were in his face but that is legal. Attacking someone is not.
You are the one justifying someone being violent because they couldn’t use their words or at a minimum ignore them. Would you be so quick to defend a right-winger being harassed if they attacked the person asking them questions? What if movie stars just started attacking the paparazzi is that ok in your book? I doubt it. Typically lefty.
rick whitaker
October 18, 2023 at 10:05 pm
typical lefty, do you realize how maga cultish that sounds? no you don’t. the left is progressive and the right is regressive. too simple for you huh? regression is lack of growth and not correcting errors but repeating them. you need to woke up.
rick whitaker
October 18, 2023 at 10:07 pm
a libertarian is like a monday morning quarterback. they don’t help, they just complain. pick a team and improve it.
T. Campbell
October 18, 2023 at 11:00 pm
Yes, horrible libertarians. Always trying to let people be free. How regressive. Instead, lets force people to bow down to our silly beliefs. That’s the way forward…
James Wilson
October 17, 2023 at 7:42 pm
MAGAs like Campbell feel entitled to harass anyone, or even hang Mike Pence. Civility and reason are lost on them. They are a sad reflection on how far our society has devolved in a few short years. Trump and Ron seem to be plunging us into depths of depravity heretofore unknown.
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 10:05 pm
I’m a libertarian for what it’s worth. Both sides are power hungry narcissists who want everyone to bow down to their views, I just think the left has gone off the deep end more at this point.
James Wilson
October 17, 2023 at 7:38 pm
You sir, are an inveterate liar. The video shows the two Turning Point thugs following the professor around, harassing him, and then one of them pushing him down. They continued to harass him after they attacked him and only ran away when the police started to arrive. That is definition MAGA.
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/turning-point-usa-crew-accused-of-bloodying-asu-professors-face-university-president-says-in-statement
T. Campbell
October 17, 2023 at 10:40 pm
He hit the camera then got pushed. They did not touch him before that. It’s clear as day. Sure they followed him, but he struck first and then got pushed. Moral of the story, don’t start a fight you cant win, and the old adage sticks and stones fits well.
rick whitaker
October 18, 2023 at 10:11 pm
libertarian my ass, you are a malcontent. i’m so glad i don’t know you, you would force me to spank you like the toddler brat you sound like.
T. Campbell
October 18, 2023 at 10:59 pm
Great argument there tough guy.
rick whitaker
October 19, 2023 at 8:40 pm
thank you
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