Renzo Downey
Three of four suspects arrested in Lee County on looting charges were in the country illegally, according to Gov. Ron DeSantis.
Florida’s Republican Governor made the announcement Tuesday during a news conference in Fort Myers about the response to Hurricane Ian. He has touted “law and order” in Southwest Florida following the destruction from the Category 4 hurricane, and Tuesday’s update connected that effort with his opposition to President Joe Biden’s immigration policies.
“These are people that are foreigners, they’re illegally in our country, but not only that, they try to loot and ransack in the aftermath of a natural disaster,” DeSantis told reporters.
“They should be prosecuted, but they need to be sent back to their home country. They should not be here at all.”
DeSantis, Attorney General Ashley Moody and Republican officials across the country have frequently targeted the Biden administration for suspending the federal “Remain in Mexico” policy, which required migrants seeking asylum to remain in Mexico until their immigration court date.
Last month, DeSantis sent 48 Venezuelan migrants on flights from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard in Massachusetts, an act that has brought immigration back to the fore as DeSantis seeks re-election.
Lee County has implemented a curfew and a “zero-tolerance” policy against looting. Fox News reported Lee County Sheriff’s deputies arrested all four on charges of burglary of an unoccupied structure during a state of emergency, according to online jail records.
DeSantis has come out hard against looting in the days since Ian passed through Florida. On Friday, DeSantis referenced one sight he saw in Punta Gorda the day prior.
“They boarded up all the businesses, and there are people that wrote on their plywood, ‘you loot, we shoot,’” DeSantis said. “At the end of the day, we are not going to allow lawlessness to take advantage of this situation. We are a law-and-order state, and this is a law-and-order community, so do not think that you’re going to go take advantage of people who’ve suffered misfortune.”
Later in St. Augustine, DeSantis said he told Division of Emergency Management Director Kevin Guthrie that the state could provide support in the event of people bringing boats to try to “ransack” homes on islands that have been isolated from the mainland.
“I can tell you, in the state of Florida, you never know what may be lurking behind somebody’s home,” DeSantis said. “I would not want to chance that if I were you, given that we’re a Second Amendment state.”
65 comments
The Real Tom
October 4, 2022 at 4:48 pm
There he goes politicizing the hurricane again.
Anna
October 5, 2022 at 4:56 am
DeSatanis is campaigning 24/7, why is his Desatanid and his wife having a private donation for Ian hurricane. Needs to be investigated
Kiefsweat
October 5, 2022 at 1:36 pm
Isn’t that what they did to
Traitor bush during Katrina?
Johnathan Galt
October 5, 2022 at 1:46 pm
Yeah, notice that this is the kind of “politicization” he couldn’t do unless it actually happened.
I’ll bet you go to sleep muttering, “the border is under control!”
Paul Passarelli
October 5, 2022 at 1:48 pm
“Who is John Galt?” ;^)
marylou
October 6, 2022 at 8:07 pm
You know, Ayn Rand was a 100% supporter of abortion rights, stating, “Abortion is a moral right — which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?” “To prevent a woman from ending an unwanted pregnancy is to deprive her from taking control of her own life… and treats her as a ”brood-mare.”
Rand states that risky pregnancies treat the woman as “a screaming huddle of infected flesh who must not be permitted to imagine that she has the right to live.”
Rand considered abortion to be “pro-life” And says “I regard abortion as probably the most important issue”, and says that opposition to abortion reflects a “fundamental philosophical evil in a person’s convictions.”
Paul Passarelli
October 7, 2022 at 8:41 am
I agree.
That doesn’t mean I’ll ever support a Democrat! The Leftist need this to be a litmus test. I don’t.
The rest of the malformed conclusions that accompany the Democrat perspective so vastly outweigh the few issues they are right about. It like being told by your doctor that you have cancer, an massive infection and several broken bones, but insisting that you need to have your hair & nails done first, and your stylist is booked for the next three weeks, so you’ll put the rest off.
Also, since I’m a man, and you’re a Soros Troll, and neither of us have a uterus, our opinions really shouldn’t matter. Which is also part of my public opinion on the matter. Which is why I don’t care to debate the issue with you any further.
Greg Lewis
October 5, 2022 at 2:08 pm
Yep, telling the truth, to some, means politicizing the hurricane. To other’s it’s simply telling the truth.
Paul Passarelli
October 4, 2022 at 5:06 pm
Imagine that — criminals acting criminally.
That’s why looters should be shot — not arrested.
As for “The Real Tom” that’s clearly a fake alias.
Go away you Soros Troll
Jay Smif
October 4, 2022 at 6:43 pm
Who do you think you’re going to “kill,” you simpering conservative pussy?
Paul Passarelli
October 4, 2022 at 9:41 pm
I didn’t say I was going to “kill” anyone. I said: “looters should be shot.” which I stand by. To amplify the point I’d add ‘on sight’. Because just entering a property while a clear state of emergency is sufficient to prove intent to loot.
As for the conservative label , which you clearly intend to be an insult, I’ll counter that I’m actually libertarian — you know the ones that believe in small government. Libertarians don’t go running to the police to solve their problems. We confront them head on. You’ll also find that true Libertarians wouldn’t loot a store, they would erect barriers to help the owner of the property, because we believe that property rights are one of the cornerstones of a free society. And violating the property rights of others is one of the ‘crimes’ that can never be too strongly discouraged.
P.S. With all that supposed Leftwing cultural sensitivity, aren’t you the least bit embarrassed by that fake alias?
I ask anyone with two brain cells, which side is truly the domain of the racist sycophants?
Jay Smif
October 4, 2022 at 9:48 pm
How many people do you claim to have killed now, pussy little Paulie? I’m sure as a staunch libertarian, you’re insisting that pudgy fascist Ron DeSantis use every single penny of state surplus money before he starts begging for tens of billions of socialist taxpayer bailouts for that shithole state, right?
Come on, killer. Tell us about all those people you fantasize about shooting, old man.
Kiefsweat
October 5, 2022 at 1:32 pm
I’d kill you, just because your a communist.
Tjb
October 5, 2022 at 10:29 am
So if a neighbor, that I haven’t met, comes on my property looking for their personal property that was blow away in the hurricane, I can shot them
Your reckless rhetoric stating “looter should be shot” is dangerous. To many folks i”if you are going to shoot”, it also implies to kill.
I stand with Jay and the killing of another is an horrific act that is difficult to live with, it would be crazy to shot another human because they took my color tv.
Paul Passarelli
October 5, 2022 at 1:00 pm
@Tbj, you are so clearly an idiot. I know you are again trying to seem sophisticated, but you are only doing so to impress those Democrats here that are even dumber than yourself.
If you can’t tell the difference between a ‘neighbor’ looking to recover lost property & looters ransacking anything from a house to a store, or a neighborhood to a strip mall, then your idiocy is contributory to the problem.
I would cite the K.I.S.S. principle, and to avoid confusion I’ll tell you in no uncertain terms that the gesture with the similar sound is something I would ever make in your sorry direction.
Now run away you fake alias Soros Troll.
Tjb
October 5, 2022 at 2:08 pm
Replying to you below comment calling me an idiot..
Interesting. You often go to personal insults quickly and not really address the issues.
Your comment “ looters will be shot” is a reckless and dangerous statement that could incite others to shot before they fully assess a possibly dangerous situation.
Regarding your statement, “that I should run away” , perhaps you should move back to Connecticut. As a Florida native, carpetbaggers from the north are as welcomed as citrus greening.
Ps- the car sales person with your name is located in Palm Beach Cty.
Paul Passarelli
October 5, 2022 at 4:35 pm
@Tjb (or whatever fake alias you’re using),
I called you an idiot because your comments are idiotic.The statement “Looters will be shot” in no way incites property owners to shoot anyone; unless they are looting.
The reason that I descent into insults is that you have repeatedly failed to demonstrate that you’re capable or willing to debate. You toss out ‘twisted verbiage grenades’ and then wait for them to detonate. All I do is pull the pins on those grenades and send them back into your foxhole.
I have no interest in your place of birth, and since you had no control over it, it’s not something that conveys unto you any additional, or lesser, respect, or banner of achievement.
Also: I’m not a carpetbagger. Carpetbaggers are transients. I pulled up deep roots in New England, and followed the Nutmeg State motto: “Qui Transtulit Sustinet” to my new home state. I didn’t come here to change Florida like so many displaces New Yorkers. I came here to prevent those idiots from turning The Sunshine State into the Blue shithole & got the hell out of! You should be thanking me, not attacking.
In the spirit of transplanting, I lost 5% of my citrus trees this winter to that cold snap & maybe greening too, maybe snails (the little ones).
P.S. — followup — I don’t make it a point to follow my namesakes. But since I have only a few, I know something about each. My guess is that the one that is in “Palm Beach Cty” is probably the one that used to be a car salesman in Long Island. Remember what I said about getting the hell out of the northeast? Well that’s where Blue complainers are more likely to go. I neither have nor want anything to do with that metro corridor.
Johnathan Galt
October 5, 2022 at 1:48 pm
Yep. Libertarians are the true existential threat to Demotalitarians. It makes them sad.
Jay Smif
October 4, 2022 at 11:36 pm
Does the dealership you work for know that you advocate for shooting people for kicks, or are your Jewish customers unaware of your nazi beliefs, Paul?
Paul Passarelli
October 4, 2022 at 11:51 pm
In the words of Artie Johnson — “Ver-r-ry inter-r-resting.”
BTW; are you a new troll assighed by Soros’ people to work the site?
Jay Smif
October 5, 2022 at 11:18 am
Who is “Soros,” princess? Again, do the Jewish customers at the Mercedes dealership you work for know that you’re advocating for shooting people down in the streets?
Paul Passarelli
October 5, 2022 at 1:20 pm
Oh wow! You are even dumber than I thought! (see below)
Do you honestly not know who George Soros is? How old are you? Twelve? Are you even that old?
You should ask your teacher.
Now go away, this forum is for adults, not fake alias Soros Trolls who don’t even know who they are working for.
Holy shit the indoctrination is complete it’s 1984. I think I’m going to be sick.
Yeah No.
October 5, 2022 at 1:39 pm
Are you seriously trying to DOX someone you pathetic loser? Didn’t your mommy bring you some more hot pockets into your basement bedroom? Is that why you are so cranky? Go away troll.
Tjb
October 5, 2022 at 10:34 am
I think you have the wrong Paul. This Paul is from Connecticut. When he run for state office Paul received 1% of the vote. It looks like not too many folks agree with Paul’s thoughts.
Paul Passarelli
October 5, 2022 at 1:07 pm
TY @Tjb. Thank you for proving my point about how stupid Soros Trolls really are.
He thought I was the car salesman from Long Island, NY. I was hoping to convince him I’m also the glam rocker from Washington state. But even if he’s as dumb as I believe him to be, it’s probably too late for that little charade.
Even though I really can’t stand the crap you post here, when something is that funny, I can put politics aside; for a moment.
Johnathan Galt
October 5, 2022 at 1:50 pm
Nobody mistakes you for a person.
Kiefsweat
October 5, 2022 at 1:33 pm
I want to kill communists and their children
Johnathan Galt
October 5, 2022 at 1:52 pm
Sounds like a very pragmatic life outlook.
While wanting it is healthy, I recommend not DOING it unless you have a plausible reason. Like looting your home.
Johnathan Galt
October 5, 2022 at 1:47 pm
The persona is consistent with the same name on other sites.
I’ve always wondered if they get paid in Rubles, or Yuan?
Avy115
October 4, 2022 at 5:39 pm
Hi
The Real Tom
October 4, 2022 at 5:42 pm
Antisemitic conspiracy theorist and socially derelict conservative…you go away. I hope you are shot by IRS agent for hoarding US government property…bank notes.
Paul Passarelli
October 4, 2022 at 9:49 pm
This comment actually makes be wonder if you understand even the most basic aspects of economic theory.
Seriously, I think you are mimicking the words “bank notes” because you think it makes you sound sophisticated.
Over the course of my life I’ve learned that it doesn’t take a whole lot in the intelligence department to have a sharp tongue that only inflicts pain. You were that kid nobody liked so you learned how to use words that hurt. It’s sad when a ten-year-old does it. It’s pathetic when an adult still resorts to the same tactics.
P.S and lose the fake alias you Soros Troll.
The Real Tom
October 4, 2022 at 10:57 pm
Economic theory has nothing to do with the fact that your money belongs to the government. It’s a medium of exchange authorized and issued by the US government. If you buy gold with it and keep it yourself then that’s a different story. If you barter then that’s a different story. Point being the government is so deep in your ass and in your pockets that you can’t do anything about it. It’s just a fact of life on planet earth. If you don’t like it then go live in the woods and grow your own food and hunt. Go to Russia or Europe or China if you don’t like the way things are done here. We coming for your money buddy and we gonna get it one way…or another.
Johnathan Galt
October 5, 2022 at 1:53 pm
Wow, the racism is strong in this Demotalitarian!
Jim cook
October 4, 2022 at 7:22 pm
HATE WILL GET YOU NO WHERE , WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY ,WE NEED THOSE THAT
Has the privilege of sharing it with one each to act like god was listening every word you say every thing you do.
BECAUSE HE IS 24/7/365 plus leap year
Impeach Biden
October 4, 2022 at 7:32 pm
Send them to Jose Biden’s hood in Delaware. They can learn the Hispanic culture there like Jose Biden did. Next stop is Florida for Jose where he will claim to be “Florida Man”.
Joe Corsin
October 4, 2022 at 10:58 pm
We gonna send you to Mexico and move a Mexican in your house. This how tired people are of you far right weasels and Russian assets.
Paul Passarelli
October 4, 2022 at 11:04 pm
So, uh, “Joe” (or whoever you are) when you try to write as if ‘you from da hood’, do you feel the slightest twinge of guilt or remorse?
Or are you like the rest of the hypocritical lefties and only complain about ‘cultural appropriation’ when you can use it as a cudgel?
Or are you simply mocking the people you would otherwise pretend to suck up to for political gains?
Which is it Joe or whoever you are behind the fake alias?
Go home all you Soros Trolls.
Joe Corsin
October 5, 2022 at 7:41 am
You gonna give us your money. If you don’t, you will be subject to a far left flash mob. If you shoot someone then you going to prison forever. So just pay your taxes and be socially responsible. By the way, your taxes are going up, up, and up. Nothing you and your bought and paid for, rich politicians can do about it. You gonna give us your money..
JAMES WOOTEN
October 5, 2022 at 5:49 am
LET ME SEE,THESE PEOPLE THAT WELCOME ALL THOSE THAT ENTER OUR OUNTRY BY THE BACK DOOR SHOULD BE WELCOMED.
DID YOU TAKE ONE IN YOUR HOME TO TAKE CARE OF, FEED CLOTH
GIVE MONEY TO, I WOULD SAY NO! THAT SOMEBODY ELSE’S WORRY, AMERCAN TAX PAYER. WHEN YOUR PRESIDENT (BIDEN) GIVES THEM SOCIALSECURITY, AND YOU CAN;T GET IT WHEN YOU RETIRE– TELL ME HOW WELL YOU LIKE THESE PEOPLE THAT NEVER WORKED IN THIS COUNTRY DESERVE TO BE HERE.
STAY IN YOUR COUNTRY, MAKE IT BETTER, NOT DESTROY OURS
Don’t Look Up
October 5, 2022 at 9:26 am
Undocumented workers pay into social security but are never entitled to the benefits. America’s undocumented contribute $40 billion in taxes annually. Grow up child and get educated.
Paul Passarelli
October 5, 2022 at 9:50 am
If they ‘contribute’ $40B annually, hmmm.
The US government spends $81B annually. A lot of those prisoners are illegals (e.g. MS-13). And that doesn’t even consider the *STATE* prisons of which there are 50 (or so); some with higher then the federal rates, some lower, so let’s multiply that $80B by some big number.
Suddenly that $40B (which is doubtful) is diminished to just a fraction of what the illegals *COST* the US economy each year, and that loss doesn’t even account for the damages that *CRIME* cost their victims.
At least now I see why this fake alias is “Don’t Look Up”. Someone should tell Soros you failed to persuade; again.
Billy Bags
October 6, 2022 at 2:05 pm
Paul, please provide citations for your figures.
The federal bureau of prisons reports that 84% of their inmates are of American citizenship. Of the other citizenships, I couldn’t find any information on how many are in the US illegally. But the majority of the prison population in America is Americans.
Undocumented immigrants pay into the system much more than they get out of it, and even more than they cost in public services. They pay sales taxes and even property taxes when renting. Undocumented immigrants work jobs in the farming and fishing industries and perform many jobs that Americans will not do, for low pay. They keep the cost of many services in this country cheaper for you and me.
A criminal is a criminal and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But if you do some simple research, you will find that crime rates are lower among undocumented people in the US than citizens. They want to be here and don’t want to jeopardize that!
Paul Passarelli
October 6, 2022 at 3:37 pm
Well, I’d say my $81B figure came from the same place as fake “Don’t Look Up”. But mine can be had from the US DoC dot gov site via Google.
BTW, the *RATES* are in this context irrelevant. The issue was raised in absolute dollars. Which is a common Democrat/Liars tactic to confuse people that are not good with math.
But if you consider that illegals make up 3.3% of the US population and amount to 16% of the Federal prison population, I’d say (just offhand) that they are in fact incarcerated a — MUCH GREATER RATE — than citizens; by your own admission.
just sayin
October 5, 2022 at 9:00 am
Can send everyone posting in this thread to Mexico? Or stick them on Pine Island and leave them there in a Lord of the Flies situation?
Tjb
October 5, 2022 at 10:14 am
Did DeSantis have to kidnap these aliens from Texas and bring them to Florida under the false pretense that they would be allow to legal loot?
Lee
October 5, 2022 at 11:57 am
Best Gov Florida has had…
If you are on my property without my notice, you will be held at gun point till I determine your real means of being there. If you try to come into my house against my will or without notice, you will be shot. End of Story…
marylou
October 5, 2022 at 1:15 pm
If you feel as strongly about your daughter’s uterus property, keep DeSadist out of her body! VOTE OUT DESADIST!
Paul Passarelli
October 5, 2022 at 1:39 pm
That is such an inappropriate comment, I feel the need to follow up:
If you care at all about your son’s balls keep him out of the public schools! DECERTIFY P.S. TEACHER’S UNIONS!
marylou
October 6, 2022 at 1:51 pm
No, Paul, inappropriate is a man (Desantis) thinking he has a God-given right to insert himself into a woman’s body against her will.
Abortion bans cause: forced motherhood, life-long trauma from rape and incest because a child will be a constant reminder, 18 year custody involvement with an abusive ex-husband, women to be at the mercy of a man who wants to trap a woman or have power over her by threatening rape, a man or woman paying child support for a child they did not want to have, women being denied cancer treatment and having their cancer spread because they aren’t eligible for an abortion and their oncologist won’t provide chemo because it will damage a fetus, women carrying skull-less fetuses, women–and now a few men–being denied a wide range of medications because they could cause miscarriage or embryonic damage if taken within a couple months prior to conception..
Lee
October 5, 2022 at 3:14 pm
DeDantis is Best Gov FL has had…
At least we have a Gov now that has the BALLS to stand up to this Biden Administration that has proven to be worst ever in history. Charlie Crist failed before as Gov and WILL fail again if given the opportunity to be Gov again.
You say about my daughters uterus, I say I trust him with her life and so does she…
marylou
October 6, 2022 at 1:24 pm
If only Desantis TRUSTED HER to make the right decisions for her own body and her family.
I hope your daughter made it through Ian safely.
Paul Passarelli
October 6, 2022 at 1:35 pm
Soros Trolls with fake aliases just love to bring up non-sequiturs.
That’s because in a debate or even a lighter battle of wits, the Progressive-Socialist is unarmed.
Jay Smif
October 5, 2022 at 4:16 pm
Sure you will, pussy old man. How many people do you claim to have killed now, princess?
christ you conservatives are the biggest fairies in the entire world. You’re easily disarmed and beaten into a coma with your own weapon, snowflake.
Paul Passarelli
October 5, 2022 at 1:19 pm
Oh wow! You are even dumber than I thought! (see below)
Do you honestly not know who George Soros is? How old are you? Twelve? Are you even that old?
You should ask your teacher.
Now go away, this forum is for adults, not fake alias Soros Trolls who don’t even know who they are working for.
Holy shit the indoctrination is complete it’s 1984. I think I’m going to be sick.
Ocean Joe
October 6, 2022 at 6:29 am
“This forum is for adults…” You sure about that Mr. Paul?
Just one of many
October 5, 2022 at 1:41 pm
Screaming hate at the top of your lungs does not change the mind of a thoughtful American. They don’t talk a lot. They vote, give, and roll up their sleeves to help. They often carry.
k
October 6, 2022 at 6:18 am
Everything I don’t like is the invention of George Soros!
Paul Passarelli
October 6, 2022 at 8:37 am
My friends & I are planning a big “George Soros is Dead!” party for when he finally kicks off. There will be beer, food, and fireworks.
Tickets are the price of his age when he buys the farm.
Proceeds to be donated among the causes he hated most.
Tjb
October 6, 2022 at 4:34 pm
You are lying Paul. You have no friends.
Ocean Joe
October 6, 2022 at 6:26 am
This might be a good time to send a check to “We Build The Wall” so Sloppy Steve can transfer what he doesn’t steal over to Alex Jones to help pay off the latest Sandy Hook verdict, and give the rest to Don the Con, because “They’re trying to silence me, and worse, they’re trying to silence you” by searching and recovering stolen, classified documents.
If there is money left over, then maybe it can be used to help the survivors of this horrible storm, in the meantime, they can rely on federal, big government assistance, the kind they rail against in fair weather. The kind the people they elect always vote against.
When Mar-A-Lago sends its’ people, they’re not sending their best.
They’re sending grifters, draft dodgers, tax cheats, and some, I assume are good people.
ScienceBLVR
October 6, 2022 at 7:14 am
ha ha ha, My thoughts exactly! Thanks, Ocean, for a chuckle this morning, we sure could use one. And I still want to know why DeSantis can call for flags to be flown at half staff for the Queen’s death, but not the many Floridians who died here last week under his watch. Guess they are not that important.
Paul Passarelli
October 6, 2022 at 8:04 am
Are we supposed to believe that two fake aliases who are probably just one Soros Troll are actually having a conversation?
Go shovel that shit someplace else.
Karen Noneya
October 6, 2022 at 7:12 am
Okey, dokey… For those IDIOTS that think this is some kind of JOKE, YOU TRY IT ASSHAT!!! MY HOUSE has been SWAMPED, the LAST THING I NEED IS SOME GREEDY ILLEGAL FILTH to RANSACK and STEAL FROM MY FAMILY!!! YOU FILTHY SCUMBAGS that think this is POLITICAL… FERK STRAIGHT OFF!!! Better yet, COME TO PINE ISLAND, I’ll SHOW YOU ASSHATS AROUND~!!! Ferking ASSHAT ILLEGAL FILTH!
Karen Noneya
October 6, 2022 at 7:25 am
Gee, I wonder HOW these ILLEGAL ALIENS got that $35,000 AMERICAN DOLLARS EACH??? Can YOU SAY KAMALA TOE HAIRBALL?? Can YOU SAY BLM??? Can YOU SAY ANT!FA??? Can YOU SAY HOE BUYDAMNED??? FERK ALL that have made this a LEFTIST, LYING, FILTHY, SATANIC, NARRATIVE!!! This is NOT A POLITICAL NARRATIVE, FILTHY SCUMBAG!!! THIS IS ABOUT LIVES, FILTH!!! LEFTIST SCUMBAG HOES!!! WORTHLESS HERDED COWS, ALL DEMONRATS ARE! Oh, and FERK OFF TROLLS!!! I’ll EAT YOU FILTHY LIARS FOR LUNCH AND GLADLY BELCH AFTERWARDS!
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