A.G. Gancarski
As discussion of a potential Ron DeSantis run for the presidency in 2024 intensifies, Donald Trump is trying to put the Governor in his place.
During a Thursday morning Newsmax interview, Trump was asked about a potential “Trump-DeSantis ticket in 2024.”
That would place Trump atop the ticket of course, with the Florida Governor in a subordinate role.
Trump offered a cagey response to the question.
“Well, I get along with him. I was very responsible for his success because I endorsed him and he went up like a rocket ship, just like I endorsed Mary Miller the other day,” Trump said, referring to a candidate he endorsed in Illinois who won Tuesday. At a rally with the former President, Miller called the overturning of Roe v. Wade a “victory for white life,” before her spokesperson released a statement calling the remarks “a mix-up of words.”
He then referenced his endorsement of Darren Bailey, the Republican MAGA acolyte who got the nomination in Illinois against incumbent Democrat J.B. Pritzker, as another apparent comparison to the DeSantis backing.
Trump has continually maintained (including in another recent Newsmax hit) that he was “very responsible” for DeSantis’ political rise, endorsing him against Adam Putnam for Governor ahead of the 2018 Primary to replace Rick Scott. Clearly, Trump maintains that view.
The former President also expounded on his performance in public opinion polls.
“I’m leading in all the polls. Against Republicans and Democrats. I’m leading in the Republican polls with numbers nobody has ever seen before and against (Joe) Biden and anyone else they want to run, I’m leading against them,” Trump said.
Trump has often repeated quotes along these lines as DeSantis has become more of a peer figure among the grassroots GOP.
While there indeed are some national polls and state polls that show Trump dominating the field, other state polling suggests that DeSantis may be the standard bearer Republicans seek in 2024.
A new poll by the University of New Hampshire shows DeSantis with 47% support against Biden, who had 46%.
DeSantis also is strong in a potential Primary. He earned 39% with former President Trump two points behind the Florida Governor. Way back in third place: former Vice President Mike Pence, with 9% support.
These leads are well within the margins of error for the respective surveys, so these are statistical ties, but they indicate where momentum is going in the pivotal first in the nation Primary state.
DeSantis also was the top second choice GOP Primary candidate, drawing 30% support in that role compared to 24% for Trump. A full 60% of those who chose Trump as their main preference saw DeSantis as their preferred alternative, yet another indication DeSantis’ star is on the rise.
DeSantis also was the most popular candidate among potential Primary voters, with 66% net favorability, 20 points higher than Trump and even farther over the rest of the field.
DeSantis continues to deny any interest in a presidential run, mocking what he called media “obsession” about a potential campaign in a recent press conference, and continuing to be coy when asked about 2024 “nonsense.” He sidestepped this topic as recently as a Fox News interview this month. He also continues to downplay recent straw polls showing him as a leading presidential contender in 2024.
19 comments
Brad Coker
June 30, 2022 at 8:52 am
Where does Trump move his official residency to? The Constitution prohibits the President & Vice President from being residents of the same state.
PeterH
June 30, 2022 at 12:29 pm
Trump will be living in Maryland’s Federal Prison. Since Trump can’t bend over far enough to do “yard work” ….. it is doubtful that he will get leave to cut the lawns along Maryland’s state highways.
The Federal Correctional Institute in Cumberland, Md. is the go-to for white-collar Washington criminals. Disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff and former Clinton administration official Webb Hubbell served time at Cumberland, where prisoners are free to leave the premises to do yard work and the like, as long as they return.
Michael
June 30, 2022 at 12:38 pm
This is a good point; one of them would have to change residency before the election. Technically, the Constitution only prohibits Florida’s electors from voting for two candidates from Florida for Prez and Veep. But Florida’s electors could be crucial, so one of the candidates would likely move if this was the ticket.
Jwatsdog
July 1, 2022 at 10:46 am
Sorry, but you are incorrect. The President and Vice President are not prohibited from being residents of the same state.
The text says “”The electors … shall vote for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.” That comes from the time when the candidate with the most votes became President, and the candidate with the second-most votes became Vice President. Keeping the foregoing in mind, what it actually prohibited was an elector from casting both votes for candidates from the same state in which the elector lives.
Brad Coker
July 1, 2022 at 11:23 am
I stand corrected on the total ban of electors voting for President & VP from same state. The 12th Amendment prohibits electors from any one state from voting for two candidates from their state. A ticket of two people from one state essentially forfeits the electoral votes from their state.
A recent example of this was in 2000 when Dick Cheney moving his legal residency from Texas back to Wyoming in order to be on the GOP ticket with George W Bush.
Some feel it is a gray area, but testing it would require the courts getting involved. No major party ticket would ever gamble that when avoiding the risk altogether is very simple. The VP slot is simply not worth the risk.
Steven Kimble
July 1, 2022 at 3:54 pm
That is NOT in the Constitution or any of the amendments. There is no law stopping the President and Vice President from boing from the same state
ScienceBLVR
June 30, 2022 at 10:10 am
If DeSantis runs with Trump, they will lose. If DeSantis runs at the top of the ticket, he would have a fair shot. DeSantis is an authoritarian, right wing bully, but he is not stupid. Trump lost in 2020 and his approval ratings and reputation since the hearings has tanked even more. I truly don’t think Trump will take the chance of losing again,
But I would be shocked if DeSantis doesn’t run in 2024 regardless of the BS rhetoric he spews today about the obsessed media.
Antonio
June 30, 2022 at 6:01 pm
Authoritarian…I don’t think you understand what that word means..
Trump/DeSantis
June 30, 2022 at 1:15 pm
Trump could move his legal residence to Georgia. A Trump/DeSantis ticket would be great, After 4 years, then DeSantis will become President for eight years
Jwatsdog
July 1, 2022 at 10:52 am
Nopt necessary. The original manner in which we elected a President was changed in 1804. (Previously, Electoral College electors would vote for two people, with the winner of the most votes becoming the President, and the candidate finishing second becoming the Vice President.) Electors no longer cast votes for Prez and VP, so it doesn’t apply. I would also note that it was NEVER a prohibition on candidates being from the same state, merely on for whom electors could vote (with their two votes). Now, it simply doesn’t apply at all.
Martin Alan Dyckman
June 30, 2022 at 5:52 pm
Since trump knows nothing and cares less about the Constitution, he may be unaware of the fact that electors cannot vote for both a president and vice president from their same state. That means if there were a Trump-DeSantis ticket (God help us!) Florida electors could not vote for DeSantis for vice president or Trump for president. Trump could fix that of course, by moving yet again, perhaps to Texas, another state without a personal income tax.
Jwatsdog
July 1, 2022 at 10:54 am
Unfortunately, it’s you who doesn’t understand the Constitution and how are elections are carried out. I’ll say it again:
The original manner in which we elected a President was changed in 1804. (Previously, Electoral College electors would vote for two people, with the winner of the most votes becoming the President, and the candidate finishing second becoming the Vice President.) Electors no longer cast two votes for separate individuals (Prez and VP), so it doesn’t apply. I would also note that it was NEVER a prohibition on candidates being from the same state, merely on for whom electors could vote (with their two votes). Now, it simply doesn’t apply at all.
Brad
July 13, 2022 at 5:04 pm
Yes it did change in 1804. Before then, you voted for one person, and the person with second most votes became VP. But the prohibition on Florida electors not voting for two from the same state will apply, as electors cast TWO ballots since 1804, one for Prez and one for VP. For proof of this look back to 2000 when Cheney was a Texas resident. Cheney was a Texas resident in 2000 and changed back to Wyoming so as not to run into this situation with Texas electors. Some people claim Cheney couldn’t do this but constitution doesn’t state how long they have to be a resident. And if DeSantis is re-elected, he can’t and won’t give up Florida residency for 2024 because he’d have to give up the governorship if he renounced Florida residency
Dan H
June 30, 2022 at 10:40 pm
I support and will vote for DeSantis, but will only vote for Trump. Trump at the top of the ticket would be a drain. Trump has good policies, but is too arrogant, turns off too many voters, and would be impeached by dems again for no reason. He needs to step back and just brag about all he thinks he has accomplished. Time to move on. Ron will do just fine
rosa
July 1, 2022 at 3:41 pm
Two con men, grifters, pathological liars would make quite a ticket. A ticket to disaster, that is. Apparently, Tramp has been caught red-handed inciting a riot and perhaps battery on a law enforcement agent. Not to mention his felonies in Georgia asking the Secretary of State to find votes that didn’t exist. Then, there are the “alternative” slates of electors sent to D.C. I just can’t understand why any rational American would even discuss Trump running for office in 2024; although technically he could serve from prison. Perhaps an oval cell and orange jumpsuit to match his phony spray on tan. He did grift a quarter Billion for his “stop the steal” scam, so I suppose he gets credit for that one. All his Trump swag is made in China BTW. Dummies for Trump-DeSatan 2024?
Tim Gardner
July 2, 2022 at 9:03 am
you are an idiot
Elaine N. Cortina
July 2, 2022 at 12:17 pm
You are so BRAINWASHED that you should not be allowed to vote. Beyond stupid!! Liberalism IS A MENTAL DISORDER. Move to Cuba or Venezuela. Here YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
marylou
July 2, 2022 at 11:03 am
DeSantis is not interested in being #2. He will stab his MAGA Mentor in the back to get to #1.
oakhill1863
July 2, 2022 at 8:46 pm
While whether you hate or love Trump, he is obviously in much better mental and physical shape than Biden, no, no, no to another 78 year old President elect who will be 82 when he leaves office.
Just let DeSantis win the Presidency on his own if he can, and let him thank Trump for the prior endorsement.
We can all thank Trump for no more Bushes or Clintons, but at this point, we are better off with no Biden, no Hillary, no Trump, and no other codgers.
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